THE ANDRUS FAMILY

I am a Child of God,

Their promises are sure;

Queer kids are precious in Their site

If they can but endure.

Lead me, guide me

Walk beside me;

Help me find the way.

Teach me all that I must do -

To help them live today.

It’s a mantra and a mission for Andrea Andrus, who reworked the words of a favorite hymn to align with her own experience as the mother of Ash (they/them). At 17 years old, Ash identifies as pansexual, nonbinary, and asexual, and was also recently diagnosed with autism. Andrea feels it’s both a calling and a blessing to parent such a beloved child with unique gifts. “Ash is my miracle baby. I want them and the world to know how special they are.” And of the many children like her own who also struggle with their mental health, Andrea says of her advocacy, “We know there are lives on the line. That’s why we do this work.”  

Ash was born when Andrea was 35. Andrea and husband Kevin both recognized early on that there was always something extra special about them. Growing up, Andrea says Ash was the “sweetest, sweetest kid -- super smart, top of the class. Ash always wanted to do the right thing and be involved and have fun. They would come home from school all the time and say, ‘This is the best day ever’!” Ash is artistic and gifted musically. They performed with a youth theatre group, taught themselves the ukulele, and after taking piano lessons for several years, now play by ear.

While Ash has always been a delight to their parents, Andrea chokes up at recalling the rough road the Andrus’ faced when they realized the level of suffering their child had endured for years. Around Ash’s 8th grade year, Andrea and Kevin made an unexpected move back to Idaho, where they both were raised. Ash was forced to leave behind their friends and everything they knew. Then Covid hit. Ash seemed to be lost in their own world. Andrea vividly remembers the day she went in to wake up Ash for seminary and she realized there was something more going on – she knew her child was really suffering from major anxiety and depression. As they worked through that for a couple years, there was still something else Andrea felt she was missing. She then found out her child was autistic. Andrea says, “I feel strongly that someone being born with autism is just like being born LGBTQ – it’s how your brain is formed. And it’s great -- autistic people change the world. They think outside the box, they are beautiful and creative, just like our LGBTQ community.” 

But Andrea feels that Ash having been undiagnosed that long with autism, and not getting the right support and treatments was very harmful and likely made their depression a lot worse. Right after they found out they were likely autistic, Ash asked Andrea, “Mom, am I broken?” Andrea says, “I had this powerful download of words that were not my own: ‘No, you’re not broken. This is your superpower’.” She told Ash, ‘It’s just like being gay. It’s how you were born. There’s nothing wrong with that, and it’s beautiful.”

Andrea reasons so many children like her own came out during 2020, (or while on their missions), is because in times of deep introspection and isolation with both yourself and God, is when we get real with ourselves. It was the same for Ash, whose coming out was a bit of an evolution of identities as they navigated what felt most authentic. Eventually, they found identifying as nonbinary to feel like a better fit for them than being gender fluid or trans.  Andrea reports that in her research, she has found this to be a perfectly normal part of an LGBTQ youth’s journey. While she struggled with Ash’s name and pronoun shifts at first, she values the advice of (Lift and Love Trans Support Group Leader Mama) Anita who says, “Using preferred name and pronouns is another way of saying ‘I love you’.” This got really real for Andrea who, having been married once before, recently saw her former married name printed somewhere and it made her physically ill, which again reiterated to her the importance of believing people when they tell you who they are, and not dead-naming them.

Ash no longer associates with the church, and is unsure if they believe in God. Yet they have a deep connection with and find comfort in nature. Ash loves animals, mountains, the ocean, and forests. Spiritually, Ash leans into mystical things and loves crystals, essential oils, and finds Oracle cards fascinating -- much like a journal prompt. As Andrea has stepped back and watched her child’s interests develop, she has been reminded of the creation story witnessed in the temple, and that all the elements that fascinate Ash and cause them to listen to the divine are the same surrounding elements that God created. 

Rather than resist Ash’s affinities, Andrea has made it a conscience choice to lean in and learn what her child is experiencing. She recognizes that a long time ago, she was one of those people who thought being gay was a choice. But when her own child came out, and her daily need became keeping that child alive, Andrea shed some of her past reluctancies and now finds intense peace and joy in allowing her heart to remain cracked open. An early prompting to learn all she could about the LGBTQ space transformed Andrea’s own belief system as she started to see that her personal revelation and insights did not always align with what she’d been taught. At one point, she apologized to Ash for not being better prepared, and now the two have a very strong bond of trust and transparency. Because of the actions Andrea took to educate herself and become a stronger ally, not only does Andrea feel an extreme outpouring of love for Ash, but for all LGBTQ people, including her gay niece and nephew.

She advises others to “Stay curious. To try to accept and love. If something bothers you, ask yourself why.” When Ash first came out to their parents, at the time the Andrus family was living in Twin Falls, ID, where they had a remarkable affirming bishop and his wife – each with a gay sibling of their own. Andrea’s bishop advised her to seek her own personal revelation, while also saying, “Your job is to love them.” At first, she thought, “Of course, I do.” But with time, she learned that love really is a verb.

On her spiritual journey, many things uttered over pulpits have been hurtful to Andrea. “I try to be a stone catcher. But sometimes it feels like stones are being thrown by some of our own.” One recent talk in particular that made it sound like Andrea’s child might “end up in a lesser kingdom” was especially hard. “I reject that,” she says. “I think there’s a VIP section for our LGBTQ siblings in heaven. A special place for special people.” Andrea also embraces the notion of expecting miracles along this journey as we navigate from Point A to Point B. She says, “God loves all His children. If the gospel doesn’t include all God’s children, then it’s not the complete gospel.”  

Now residents of Eagle, ID, Andrea is hopeful the church may someday feel like a safer place for her family. But as of now, she says, “We’re hurting. It’s not ok. Such a huge percentage of LGBTQ families leave the church. There are some people and organizations doing great things, but until it comes from the top, it’s not going to change the masses. Unless you’re blessed enough to have an LGBTQ child, it’s a slow process of changing hearts. And in the meantime, we’re losing so many wonderful people. Every ward’s got a few safe ‘come sit by me’ people, but it’s not enough. It’s a huge loss. And it’s lonely.” That being said, Andrea takes great comfort in her knowledge that her child Ash has a divine purpose on earth, and that God will help them succeed. 

THE MARCHEK FAMILY

Seth Marchek was a happy baby. While his mom recalls he was slow to talk, he was good at following directions and loved to be at home. As he grew, Jen says her youngest child was a “super easy child -- very obedient. He easily played by himself, and would sometimes get left behind at places because he was so low maintenance.” Seth loved to sing and dance, making a showtime out of his family’s FHE. Highly coordinated at a young age, he was also skilled at soccer.

Seth’s love for dance and musical theater as well as his super obedient nature continued through middle school, during which time he was very particular about how he dressed for church – tying his own tie by age 10. Jen says, “He was very studious about anything church related – he’d take notes during General Conference and leave post-it note reminders around his room.” Seth single-handedly led his family to read the entire Book of a Mormon as a family during the school year, after which he planned a special celebration, complete with a treat he’d baked at home and brought for his family to eat on the temple hill when they finished. Jen notes he was “100% obedient about praying over meals – even offering thanks publicly at restaurants and in his middle school cafeteria.”

Around the time he turned 15, things changed. Parents Jeff and Jen Marchek recall Seth became extremely moody and argumentative. Unhappy. Depressed. The once diligent Deacon who loved to pass the Sacrament now found excuses not to go to church. While his parents couldn’t determine what was brewing under the surface and guiding Seth’s new behavior, it was during this time that he chose to come out to his older siblings, Kira (now 23) and Zak (20). Both were extremely supportive of their younger brother.

Shortly before Seth turned 16, Jen took the kids to Pieology for pizza one night. She could tell there was a buzz between the three kids throughout dinner that followed them into the car. Once they’d closed the doors, Seth said, “Mom, I have to tell you something. Just listen for a second.” She replied, “Ok...,” to which Seth said, “I’m gay… what do you think?” Jen said she instantly said, “I love you. This doesn’t change anything.”

While Jen didn’t foresee Seth’s news, in looking back, she says she now sees how God prepared her to be the mother of a queer child. Her husband Jeff’s sister is a lesbian and got married around the time of Prop 8. Jen says, “I remember feeling very conflicted at the time, and many of our church friends asked us how we could go her wedding while being members of the church, which was so set against gay marriage. I remember taking this to the Lord in prayer and I was impressed with feelings of love for Mandi and Traci and that they were important and beloved members of not just my family – but God’s family.” 

Six months before Seth came out to his parents, Jen was on a business trip to San Francisco, near their Folsom, CA home. She felt a strong impression to look up what the church website said about LGBTQ people. She felt compelled to read everything she could find online. While she was prepared with all of this recent research, when Seth’s news hit her, at first, she was still a bit shocked and scared about what her son’s life might look like. She felt some grief for the picture she had in mind of how his life would unfold, and what her family’s future would look like. Jen knew that the despite the world being more accepting of LGBT folks than ever before, her son’s road would still be hard, and she worried for his safety. 

Jen recalls, “In this place of fear and grief and heartbreak, I turned to my Savior in prayer. I prayed to know what to do for Seth, how to help him. What should I say and do? And I was filled with the spirit of an overwhelming message – love him. I had the strongest reassurance that I was chosen to be his mother and show him love like our Savior would love him. And I felt the Spirit witnessing that God loves Seth, too.”

Now 18, Seth is a recent high school graduate who is excited to continue his education this fall at San Francisco State University. He still loves music, playing the ukulele, and performing with a competitive dance company. His parents say his mental health has drastically improved and he is back to being a happy, helpful kid. Jen says, “Seth is kind and thoughtful and respectful of others. The cloud of despair has lifted.”

While Seth is now dating a young man and has maintained a very supportive friend group from high school, Jen regrets he never really had a close friend in the church he could talk to. Seth no longer goes to church, nor do his siblings, though Zak occasionally attends YSA activities. They feel better about avoiding Sunday meetings in solidarity of their brother. Jen is her Folsom ward’s Relief Society president, and she still attends church with Jeff, where she wears a rainbow pin to church. Jen loves how her children have charitable hearts and are all always willing to help her serve anyone in their area who needs it. They often serve the homeless, and help with last minute needs that arise for Jen, who loves how Seth in particular has bonded with one of the “trickiest” ladies in the ward by pet-sitting.

Recently, Jen was asked to teach her ward’s 5th Sunday lesson about how they can be more loving LGBTQ allies. After sharing her own family’s path, Jen encouraged her ward members to pull out their gospel app while she read straight from the source of the importance of learning all you can, and expressing and showing love to LGBTQ loved ones while honoring your own natural feelings that may come as a result of someone close to you coming out. She shared the staggering mental health statistics faced by LGBTQ teens, and importance of creating safe spaces for them. She shared how her heart broke when she learned that her own son had struggled as a youth, feeling if he could just be righteous enough – more perfect in his prayers, scripture reading, and with keeping the commandments, that somehow God would take this way. Then she shared, “But the years went by and it didn’t change. And he felt pain that he didn’t fit in with the gospel plan, especially as told in the Proclamation, which led to pain bubbling up in an angry teen.” She shared the sadness she felt that despite all she had done to show her family they were a place of acceptance, that her son still harbored fear and shame. Jen also shared how she feels the most important reactions people can have when someone comes out are to 1) love them and 2) believe them. In her lesson, she emphasized a point once made by Carol F. McConkie, “The gospel of Jesus Christ does not marginalize people. People marginalize people. And we have to fix that. We need to be sensitive and love them and allow them the opportunity to grow and to blossom and to be their best selves. They have talents and abilities and personalities that are needed in the kingdom of God.”

Jen concluded her well-received lesson with this testimony: “As I’ve sought to study and learn more about this portion of my journey, I keep being drawn closer and closer to Christ. He is the answer. He is the one who ministered to all of those on the margins, the Samaritans, the tax collector, the woman accused of adultery, the sick and the lepers. I truly know in my heart that Jesus Christ loves all of his children.” 

Jen is grateful to participate in a nearby stake’s Learn of Me LGBTQ study group, in which their meetings all include a story from the life and ministry of Jesus Christ: “It is to Him we look.” Of her calling of being Seth’s mom, Jen is grateful that, “It’s a chance to love more, feel the spirit more, and to not be afraid.” And Jen took great comfort at the recent Lift and Love mom’s retreat, where she looked around at the 100+ other women in the room and marveled how she’s not alone in her journey as she strives to keep her faith and walk this path.

THE BALDWIN FAMILY

Like many mothers of LGBTQ kids, Carey Baldwin’s path to allyship was prompted long before her daughter, Millie, ever raised the topic of her own sexual orientation. When she first met Lift & Love founder (and now friend, Allison Dayton), Carey had to agree with her notion: “Isn’t it amazing how God gives you a runway?” 

About four years ago, a series of experiences cracked open Carey’s heart to the LGBTQ community. She witnessed a handful of people in her orbit face complex situations with their LGBTQ loved ones, from a trans person being denied the opportunity to be baptized, to multiple friends grappling with their LGBTQ children’s mental health and suicidal behavior. She says, “The hardest part was seeing how everyone seemed to know what was going on, but no one said anything. Why do these young people feel like they have to leave our LDS community and make it on their own – or take their lives?” Around this time, Carey heard the statistic about how LGBTQ youth who have at least one supportive adult in their life are 40% less likely to attempt suicide. At that moment, Carey decided, “I have to be that person. Anyone who knows me has to know how I feel about LGBTQ. That I love them.” But at first, she wasn’t sure exactly how to go about it.

Carey saw J. Kirk Richard’s painting “Jesus Said Love Everyone” online and considered the influx of youth and young adults who frequented her own home as a mother of four and wife of a bishop. She decided to make her home an obvious safe space, and acquired and hung the painting. She also posted a picture of the painting on social media. This caught the attention of a friend whose child had just come out. Her friend mentioned the loneliness and isolation she was feeling, and the two started taking regular walks for hours around a lake, where they’d talk through everything and strategize how they could do better. It was the beginning of 2020’s COVID quarantine, and with more time on their hands, they decided to start an LGBTQ study group and dive into whatever resources they could find for LDS people trying to be better allies. They followed the lead of Questions from the Closet podcast co-host, Charlie Bird, and started reading the Book of Mormon from the lens of an LGBTQ person/ally. 

Word slowly spread about their study group, and eventually it turned into a regular Zoom meeting with a growing number of friends. Carey says, “I have learned more from the scriptures in the past couple years studying with this group than I ever have before… It’s definitely a sacred space for me.” Carey felt a warmth inside her the day her Minnesota stake president got up in stake conference and, while sharing successes in their church community, included the fact that they have an LGBTQ Book of Mormon study group. Hearing this, some gay members in attendance then joined the group, which still continues via Zoom and in-person today. As people gradually returned to in-person church, Carey made sure to show up to church gatherings wearing her rainbow pin, and trying to be the best ally she could.

Shortly before the Baldwin's oldest daughter, Ella, was to be married in the temple, Carey remembers popping into Millie’s room one night to say prayers with her. While the two were talking about the wedding, Millie casually said, “You know, I don’t know if I’ll get married in the temple.” When her mother asked her why not, Millie replied, “Well, not everyone can get married there – like people who are LGBTQ can’t.” Carey remembers agreeing that was unfortunate, but didn’t ask more. She assumed this was just the social justice side of Millie speaking – a side that’s always been very much alive and admired by those who know and love Millie.

“She’s always had a different way of viewing the world than most of her peers,” says Carey. Millie was diagnosed with a visual processing disorder that has made the traditional learning environment challenging. Because of this, Carey spent a lot of time with her youngest over the years as they sought the proper therapy and resources to be successful in a school setting. She has learned to advocate for herself and has overcome many learning challenges. Carey now recognizes the gift that Millie has to see the world in a way most people don’t. “Millie’s always been an authentic kid – she doesn’t conform, she’s just herself. And she cares so much for someone her age – about equality, fairness. It’s fascinating.”  

In another bedtime check-in about a year later, Millie said, “Mom, I’m just going to tell you I’m bisexual.” Carey remembers feeling so grateful she had immersed herself in the resources she had, but still she found herself silencing thoughts like, “You’re too young to start thinking that/you’ve got all this time/why do you need to identify yourself right now?”  But in the moment, what she said was, “I love you, and I think you’re awesome.” Millie then left her room to go tell her dad, Scott, who had walked the ally journey alongside Carey, and was also instantly supportive and affirming. So were all of Millie’s siblings, which include Ella (23), Caroline (20) and Calvin (18). Carey says no one seemed phased by this news. And neither is Millie, who “doesn’t find her orientation a big deal.” As Carey has reflected on this moment, she recognizes that what mattered most was being ready to display unconditional love, without hesitation or reservation. She is also trying to leave safe space for Millie to fully understand herself. “I have learned that many youth evolve in how they understand their sexuality as they grow and learn more about themselves,” Carey said. “I wanted Millie to know that she would be fully accepted and loved by me and our family throughout her journey.”

Carey admires her daughter’s bravery and self-confidence, something she does not remember feeling at the same levels at that age. Carey admits sometimes she still feels the same fear creeping up when it comes to her daughter entering a new environment. After many years living in Minnesota, the family made an unexpected move to Denver, CO last summer, and Carey harbored some anxiety knowing they’d be moving to a new, more conservative area. She feels she may have projected some of that anxiety on Millie who she told, “Maybe don’t come right out with it – get to know people first.” Millie requested to meet with a therapist to help her sort some things out in the transition, which turned out to be a great support as Millie entered her new environment. “She is doing great,” smiles Carey.

Her mother assumed Millie might say “peace out” to the church with the new move, but that has not been the case. When Carey asked her if she was fine to keep going, Millie said, “Yeah, for now.” It helps her to know her parents have her back, and will listen and commiserate when certain lessons don’t effectively address her reality. Millie doesn’t lead with her orientation, but most of the kids know. While their new ward and stake are not quite as LGBTQ-affirming yet as those in Minnesota, Millie says most of her peers don’t feel her identity is a big deal, and she doesn’t understand why her mom “stresses about it so much.”

When they moved, Carey did lead with announcing her own allyship. She showed up the first Sunday at church wearing a rainbow dress and pin, and now laughs, “I may have scared a few people.” But her actions attracted the attention of her stake RS president, who is also an ally, and this new friend asked her to be the stake inclusion specialist. She also suggested that Carey do a training for the bishops about LGBTQ inclusion. Carey has enjoyed sharing what she has learned and making new friendships with others who are working on their allyship. She just wishes that more church members and leaders would engage so that progress could accelerate. Carey says, “Too often, members and leaders either avoid discussing LGBTQ topics or gravitate to outmoded and incorrect ideas.” 

As for Millie, she is thriving in her new environment. An avid theatre and music lover and Harry Styles fan, Millie just starred as the Baker’s Wife in a school production of Into the Woods. Her parents were also impressed that, as the new kid in school, she was recently selected to be part of student government. She has a unique sense of fashion and someday wants to go to fashion school in New York. Carey says, “People really like Millie because she doesn’t put on a front with anyone.”

Carey takes her calling as Millie’s mother and LGBTQ advocate seriously, and advises any parent new to this space to lead with love when it comes to their children. “When they come out, you just tell them that you love them and are there to support them. And give them the biggest hug ever. Be so proud they felt comfortable sharing that with you – they’ve thought about it a long time. Give them as much grace and love as you can.”

She thinks back to the day she first bravely posted on Instagram the beautiful painting of the Savior with rainbow robes by J. Kirk Richards, and the friend who reached out to her seeking a supportive person to talk to. Now Carey and her friend realize that having that experience changed both of their lives for the better as they have learned to become allies who are committed to supporting their children and to staying in the church they love – for them, these are not mutually exclusive notions. And they have an LGBTQ study group to prove it.

Carey concludes, “The church should not be a painful place for people to be. That’s so counterintuitive to the radical love the Savior showed – and we are supposed to be like Him. No one should feel pain while worshiping Jesus. Only love.”

THE CONFORTO FAMILY

Looking back, there were several incidents over the years that prepared Jason and Natalie Conforto for that late night just before their oldest son Jamison’s 18th birthday in which he would come into their room and reveal that he was gay. But nothing prepared them for his subsequent admission that he had packed his bags and was prepared to leave their home if they felt it was necessary. “That just broke our hearts -- that he would think that his being gay would make it so he didn’t have a place in our family. It was painful,” says Jason. 

Of course, the Confortos didn’t kick their son out. Instead, they reassured Jamison he was a valued part of their family and would be forever, and that they loved and supported everything about him. But their son’s fear led Jason and his wife on a deep dive to see what in their past they might have said or done to make their son think this might even be a possibility. That probe has led them now to make it very clear where they stand both as faithful members of their LDS faith and visible allies and supporters of the LGBTQ community in West Jordan, UT, where they’ve raised their five kids (Jamison – 20, Lucy – 18, Bella – 16, Aria – 14, and Monte – 12). 

Jamison’s journey in coming out has in some ways paralleled his father’s journey in coming to understand LGBTQ issues in a meaningful way over the past two decades. When Jamison was just a toddler, Jason and Natalie recall wondering if their son might be gay, reflecting on his affinity for traditionally female things – singing, dancing, princesses. Natalie felt it was her duty to teach the Proclamation and gender roles often. While they never punished him for the things he enjoyed, Jason tried (mostly vainly) to interest his son in Batman and Star Wars, and Natalie thought that gentle guidance would help Jamison "choose" a traditionally masculine path. Instead, Jamison learned to mask his sexuality and retreat into himself. Natalie saw his unhappiness, and started to understand that her son's feelings were not a choice, but his nature. Jamison and his parents were all acting out of love, but Jamison was suffering as he hid.

For many years, Jason also served as a home teacher to a young man named Sam who was gay and had left the church. At first, Sam was resistant to a home teacher and even tried to shock Jason with stories of his relationships and activities, but Jason offered a consistent, nonjudgmental friendship for years that continues to this day. In fact, this month Jason and Natalie joined Sam and his husband Derek for Salt Lake’s Pride festival, and the Confortos were touched when Sam and Derek went out of their way to ride SLC’s Trax system all the way to West Jordan to pick up Jason and Natalie, then back again downtown by their home, just so they wouldn’t get lost. Jason says this important friendship has redefined the concept of the new ministering program, as Jason now emphasizes that you don’t need a calling to befriend someone, whether in or out of your ward boundaries.

When Jamison was still in high school, Jason, a filmmaker, produced the feature documentary Dog Valley, which followed the horrific torture, rape and murder of a young gay man named Gordon Church in Cedar City in the ‘80s. This was a harrowing experience to spend so much time with, but Jason felt it an important story to be told, even before knowing his own son was gay. Two years later, around the time Jamison came out, he told his parents he wanted to attend Southern Utah University in Cedar City. Jason said things got real when as a father, he moved his son into his dorm that was just a block away from where Gordon Church had been abducted. Jason says, “I’m really grateful that we live in a different world now, in terms of safety, for the most part. Things aren’t perfect for our LGBTQ loved ones, especially in terms of mental health, but things are getting better.”

Jamison just completed his junior year at SUU, where he is focusing on writing and film. His father says he is a natural, gifted writer. Jamison is currently studying abroad in London, and his artistic portfolio includes a handful of fantasy books, a literary memoir about his experience of coming out and entering the dating world, and freelance film work including a video about belonging and inclusion that he worked on with his father, as well as several animated music videos he’s created. Jamison is surrounded by a loving network of family and friends. Following the night he came out to his parents, Jamison came out publicly on social media, and his parents followed his lead the next day. Jason says all three posts received nothing but beautiful, positive, loving comments from friends and family.

But to the one relative who asked Jason, “Why do they have to come out?”, Jason offered this as a reply: “Jamison knows you loved the person he was pretending to be. Now he needs to know we actually love the person he is.” Jason continues, “I can’t imagine having to fear whether anyone in the world loves you. Jamison even struggled wondering if God loved him, and felt isolated from God. Such a painful thing to imagine.” Jason feels his son would still be active in the church if there was a healthy place for him. While Jason and Natalie are active LDS members, they feel there’s a lot of work to do to break down some of the hypocrisy they see. Jason feels there is way too much emphasis on whether LGBTQ people are keeping the law of chastity. “I try to change the focus to, are we keeping our covenants to love each other?  Including loving LGBTQ individuals? Frankly, we’re not. If someone wants to make and keep covenants of chastity, that’s between them and the Lord. Our business is, are we just loving them?” 

Instead of leaving the faith they love, Jason and Natalie have chosen to try to lift where they stand and look to Jesus Christ's example of love. They believe the Lord sent them their special son as part of His plan to teach us all to love better, and they try not to condemn others while their own understanding is still developing. When people make insensitive comments, Natalie remembers (with a stab), "I used to feel that way!" She believes people do their best with the limited understanding they have, and feels that sharing her story can help others grow. Natalie says, "Not everyone got to have an in-home tutor for the past twenty years, but each of our lives have taught different lessons. We need each other, and we need Jesus to show us why."

While Jamison is now out of the house as a college student, the couple now hosts a monthly group seeking to bridge understanding and provide support for those in their Pride circle. Shortly after their own son came out, Jason and Natalie realized there were five other LGBTQ teens and young adults just on their street who might benefit from some fellowship. After first notifying parents of minors and circulating their desire to host a monthly gathering, they started an open invite support circle for LGBTQ friends with LDS backgrounds. At first, they tried to operate it as a church-style meeting that included a song, prayer, and thought, but soon after, a few in the space, including their own son, recognized that might be triggering for some. The group became more of a topic-led discussion in which all can share freely, and guest speakers are often invited. Topics have included coming out, family relationships, handling the holidays and family gatherings, dating, and the group has even had a Valentine exchange party and show tune singalong night. The gatherings have grown in popularity and length, and Jason laughs he has on occasion had to tell people it’s time to go home when the clock hit 1am. 

Recently, a post he was tagged in made Jason think. It said, “What do you do if you’re a fully committed Christian but your child is gay?” Jason says, “To me, that question is written wrong. It should say, ‘What do I do as a fully committed Christian, but I struggle with my child being gay.’ That’s the only but. That’s what you need to worry about. There is no problem being a Christian and having a gay son and loving him. It’s very easy to do.” 

THE KENDRA & DEVIN WILDE STORY

“Jesus said love everyone, treat them kindly, too” and “Kindness begins with me” are the lyrics Primary President Kendra Wilde of West Jordan, UT hopes her ward members both big and small lead with when it comes to how they treat LGBTQ people. She has been happy to see this has largely been the case in her ward, where people have embraced her youngest son, Devin Wilde, since he came out as gay after he returned from his mission in 2020. 

Following the example of a bishop who Kendra calls wonderfully supportive, the Wilde’s ward has welcomed Devin to share this aspect of who he is openly, since he returned home after serving 17 months in the Scotland-Ireland mission. Devin was serving in the height of Covid, and it was a crushing time to be a missionary in the UK. He was only allowed outside of his apartment one hour a day, which left him grappling with all kinds of thoughts and emotions during lockdown. One being the past experiences that had led him to question aspects of his sexuality. Devin discovered the podcast “Latter Gay Stories,” and would listen to the stories via earbuds while binge cleaning his apartment, while his companion found other things to occupy his time. 

Kendra remembers getting a call from Devin that completely blindsided her as he revealed that he was bisexual, and would be returning home early from his mission -- for other reasons. When he returned, Devin’s mental health was at an all-time low, and it took some time for Kendra and Devin to find the right help, which they did via a life coach who specializes in LGBTQ and addiction issues. It was in those meetings that Devin came to actualize and admit that he is gay and accept himself as he is.

When Devin returned from his mission, defeated, Kendra brought him to work, where she manages the office affairs for a property development company. She tried to find odd jobs for him to do to keep him busy and keep his mind off some heavy emotions he was battling. One of her two bosses (a former bishop) saw Devin lying on the floor of her office one day, depressed, and realized the magnitude of the situation.  He has since been a wonderful support for Kendra and Devin. Her other boss took Devin fishing for a day and also offered him some support. Looking back, Kendra is grateful for the many family members and friends, like her bosses, along the way who met Devin where he was at and let him know he was loved for who he is as they helped him use the gift of the Atonement to get to a healthier mental space.

Devin’s orientation took his mom completely by surprise. He had been just 13 when his father passed away from colon cancer, and as the youngest of four kids and still living at home with his mom after his mission, Kendra says she felt very alone when he first opened up to her about all he had been grappling with. In some ways, Kendra says going through that experience was even more shocking and isolating than dealing with her husband’s death. When Devin first told her, she responded she loved him no matter what, but admits now that she needed to embark on a steep learning curve to come to a place where she could be fully supportive and open-minded about all he was experiencing. 

Like many parents, Kendra reflected back on the when and the why and the how did she not see this coming? In high school, Devin had loved ballroom dancing, and had dated a lot of girls from the sport. Kendra recalls that many girls had had crushes on him. There was one girl in particular Devin had known before his mission who he had expressed having real feelings for.  After his mission, on a quest to really figure himself out, Devin went out with the girl again, and while the two are still good friends to this day, Devin says it didn’t take him long to figure out that he wasn’t romantically interested in women.

After Devin had been home for about a year, Kendra’s bishop contacted them to say he felt strongly impressed that they needed to have a fifth Sunday lesson about LGBTQ issues, and he wanted Kendra and Devin to teach it. They agreed. The bishopric circulated a google doc amongst the ward announcing the lesson and asked ward members to input any (anonymous) questions they’d like to ask. One person questioned why this was a lesson they needed when they’re supposed to go to church to learn about Jesus Christ. This was a bit shocking to Kendra and Devin, who saw the question, but the bishop encouraged the lesson to move forward. 

Kendra and Devin took a Christ-centered yet vulnerable approach to their lesson, openly sharing each of their personal experiences and suggestions as to how people can better minister to those in the margins, and to those who might feel like they don’t fit the LDS mold. Kendra let her ward members know that, “This is what Heavenly Father has asked me to do and I am going to do it.”  It was later shared with Kendra that after the lesson was delivered, the same member who had complained about its necessity afterwards told a bishopric member that this was “the most spiritual lesson he’d ever attended” and apologized for the previous conversation.

Nowadays, Devin is doing much better. He’s working full time, studying cyber security at Davis Tech, and dating his boyfriend who he really likes.  Devin has chosen to rely on personal revelation to guide him where he should go in his future in terms of his relationships and his involvement with the church. He often goes to the temple grounds in prayer with the scriptures and a journal to receive revelation from Heavenly Father.  Currently, he feels compelled to stay, even though it is not always an easy road.  Devin does have a testimony, but things can be and are hard at times; but he still follows what he feels is right. And in fact, most Sundays you can find him near his mom in the primary room, singing the songs with the CTR 5 and 6 class he co-teaches. Kendra says, “My counselors kept asking me to call him to be a teacher.  The kids have always loved him.  And the messages taught in Primary about love and kindness are safe ones for all to hear.”

Kendra says, “Over the last two years, both of us have relied on our relationships with Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ which have been strengthened and continue to grow.  We have received many answers and feel peace at where we are today.”     

THE FARRIS-DAVIS FAMILY

Sometimes it’s not what we say, but what we don’t, that makes the most lasting impression on our children when they come to us with important news. This was the case for Mandy Davis, who’s now grateful she held her tongue to just listen about a year ago when her daughter, Ella (then 14), joined her on an after-dinner walk. Their conversation went something like this:

Ella: Mom, what do you think about gay marriage?

Mandy: I think God loves all his children, and He wants all His children to be happy.

Ella: Good, because I think I’m bisexual.

And with that, Mandy’s head started spinning. As they walked home, she felt overwhelmed with a mix of emotions -- shock that her “girly girl” who she thought had childhood crushes on singers Brandon Flowers and Adam Levine might also like girls, love for her child trusting her with this news, and gratitude she had heeded a strong impression to not say some beliefs she held (at the time): that from a church standpoint, it was still a sin to “act on it” and while it is a hard burden to carry, it is just like other sins people struggle with. She’s really glad she felt prompted not to say all that.

Mandy and Ella had always shared a special closeness – the only girls in the large, blended Farris-Davis household that includes Ella’s step-dad, Brian, step-brothers Jesse (23), Justin (20), Jake (16) and Jared (14), and her biological brothers Jace (17) and Nash (11). So after hearing Ella’s confession, Mandy questioned why she’d never sensed this about her daughter, or had the impressions some parents of LGBTQ kids say they’ve had, before their kids came out. On their walk, Mandy asked Ella how she’d come to this conclusion. She responded, “Well, today in class I was talking with this girl, and I realized how cute I thought she was, and that I think I am attracted to her.” 

“She thinks” were the words that lingered for Mandy. She took them home to her husband; Brian was also surprised. Mandy says, “It sounded so casual and sudden.  How does a light switch just go on one day and you realize you’re bisexual?” Over the next month, Mandy broached the subject again with Ella, asking if she had thought more on her feelings. Ella responded she’d been researching other sexualities that might better fit her, unsure whether bisexual was the right identity (she’d eventually determine that her sexual identity is lesbian). Hearing this, Mandy struggled to understand: why would someone need to research their sexuality? How do you just not know how you feel? She started to question how real all of this was, and found herself giving space to some of the common fallacies people hold about kids discovering their sexuality, (many of which are addressed in Richard Ostler’s book Listen, Learn and Love, which Mandy highly recommends), including: 

- Isn’t she too young to know she is gay?

- Don’t a lot of kids go through this “phase” because it is the cool thing to do, or they are just confused?

- Why would someone say they are bisexual, then later decide they are lesbian/gay?

- She had no “signs” of being gay; she seemed to have crushes in the past.  How is it that she is now suddenly gay?

- Could this just be a reaction to processing the trauma and hardships she has experienced in life?

Mandy found herself dwelling on this last question, as did a few close family members once she told them about Ella. In a few short years, much had changed for Mandy’s kids. They experienced their parents’ divorce in 2016, challenges that came with merging families when their mom remarried, and witnessed their dad’s personal struggles that persisted after the divorce. When he passed away in his sleep in April of 2020, the kids were the ones who found him. Ella was extremely close to her dad and had always tried to take care of him, so Mandy says in her misconceptions about LGBTQ+, she thought maybe her daughter was just overwhelmed and confused about life. 

The next few months brought some hard moments. Mandy said she could handle her daughter being lesbian, but she found herself constantly questioning, “Does she for sure know?” Ella also began losing her testimony and belief in God, but after watching her mom struggle with her oldest brother’s recent stepping away from the church, Ella agreed to keep going as to not rock the boat anymore. Mandy admits, “I know now that I didn’t handle everything as I should have. I was focusing on my own grief of lost futures and expectations and still trying to force Ella down the path I had envisioned for her, thinking ‘she can still be gay and participate in church’.” Mandy now acknowledges, “I didn’t truly understand at the time how difficult it is to be LGBTQ+ in the church -- to not be fully accepted and able to fully participate, to hear messages of how being LGBTQ+ is an ‘attack on the family’ or ‘influenced by Satan,’ and to hear persistent messages on temple marriage -- a blessing that she can never have.”

One Sunday, Ella asked to stay home from church to research and pray to find her own answers. She texted Mandy the scripture in Leviticus that is translated to refer to homosexuality as an “abomination,” and asked her mom, “How am I supposed to love a God who doesn’t love me?” Mandy’s heart shattered with these words. She became increasingly aware of just how difficult the church could be for families like hers. She says, “I’d also begun to experience anxiety while bracing myself for ill-informed comments and lessons on hard topics. And I have a solid testimony, so, I can only image how much harder it was for her.”  

During the open house of the Mesa, AZ temple near their hometown of Marana, AZ, Ella broke down crying in the bride’s room, and again in the sealing room. It was in this moment Mandy knew without a doubt her daughter was gay, and Mandy fully understood that if Ella could never have all the blessings the church promotes without being asked to sacrifice true love and companionship, that the best thing for her emotional health was to no longer participate in the church.

Ella is now 15 and doing well. She shares her mother’s passion for history, books, music, and live concerts. She has a natural talent for music (piano) and art (drawing), and is often complemented on her music taste, loving everything from Led Zepplin, The Beatles, Weezer, Chopin, Frank Sinatra, opera, and Broadway musicals. Ella’s family has always admired her maturity, thoughtfulness, and introspection, and the confidence with which she approaches life, including in how she owns her sexual identity. While it took a minute for Mandy to wrap her head around it all, she has strived to show her daughter her full love and support. 

After Ella came out, Mandy immediately purchased a rainbow bracelet which she wears constantly, and she has continued to add to her “rainbow collection” of apparel. On her piano is a display that includes a picture of Christ embracing children in rainbow robes, and a sign with rainbow hearts that says, “I’ll walk with you” that they made on Ella’s birthday this year. Mandy’s grateful for the family and friends who’ve shown immediate love and acceptance for Ella, including her conservative parents who’ve said, “We knew one day it was very likely we would have an LGBTQ+ grandchild or loved one.  And we knew that we would love them, just the same as we always have.”

As she’s continued on her journey, Mandy felt stirred by words shared by Charlie Bird at a recent Lift and Love retreat. He said, “You cannot be a warrior without being willing to take battle scars.” She and Brian discussed how when you go into battle, you gear yourself up with armor – hers decidedly being the fruits of her endeavors to increase her secular and spiritual knowledge and relationship with God. Mandy has made efforts to overcome her fear of rejection in lieu of advocating and shining light on the LGBTQ community, to help people see how church members can do better. She hopes that in a restorative church that values ongoing revelation, that we will continue to study these issues via solid resources and ask questions – especially of those who walk different paths so that we can understand their experience.

Much like in a solid marriage where differences and disagreements occur, Mandy knows you can feel uneasy with diverse viewpoints, ask questions, and work out compromises while still supporting each other.  Similarly, she feels we can sustain leaders as we work through difficult messages -- understanding that leaders encourage personal reflection, don’t claim perfection, and above all want us to love each other.  Mandy says, “We don’t often allow ourselves (and others) to pray, think, and ponder, as encouraged by our leaders, on a topic and come to our own thoughts and conclusion.  We love to have certainty, because without certainty we feel vulnerable.  That need for certainty inhibits our faith, trust, and personal growth. It does not give room for hope.  My wish is that we create space for everyone to express their struggles, disagreements, and differing viewpoints without questioning their devotion to the gospel and relationship with God.  We can live and love the gospel while also having hope for change and faith in the ongoing restoration, acknowledging there are a lot of things that God knows that we don’t and are not yet ready for.”  

Mandy says that while her path in life has been much more of a “zig zag” than a “straight and narrow,” she has never doubted God nor His love for her – a testimony that has only strengthened in the past year since that after-dinner walk last May. “Having Ella come out has increased my personal relationship with God, which has made all the difference in finding peace and knowing my child is exactly who He meant her to be. I have felt His guidance and received personal answers to my questions and struggles. Most of all, it has led me more towards developing the unconditional Christ-like love that I know God wants me to show to others.”  

THE TANYA & BRENDEN DAVIS FAMILY

My husband Brenden and I are the parents of four beautiful children: Courtney - 25, Ren - 23, Eme – 15, and Jackson – 13, who are ALL LGBTQ! We are the only family we know with all LQBTQ kids and we feel like we won the lottery! But it has been a process to get to this point in our lives.

Our second child, Ren (they/them), was our first to come out in 2016 at age 16, originally as pansexual and more recently as non-binary as well. As our first to come out, Ren had the toughest time and we made SO MANY mistakes, especially me. Brenden and I were on our way to Europe to celebrate our 20th wedding anniversary when we found a note in our car at the airport, telling us Ren was pansexual, had known for more than five years, and was leaving the church. We were stunned. I found out later that they had a bag packed that day in case we asked them to move out – which broke my heart. We did call right away and shared our love and support, but that was really the only time we talked about it for the next few months. I chalked it up to giving everyone time to process; but the truth was, I was afraid, and hoped this was just a phase that would go away. I thought Ren was exaggerating pain to get out of attending church, and honestly, I made the experience at the time more about me and the pain I was feeling about their stepping away from the church, instead of about their feelings.

Even with our love and acceptance, Ren had internalized feelings of unworthiness and shame that were at times crippling. A suicide attempt in 2017 really opened my eyes. At the time, I felt there could be nothing worse than the despair you feel when your child tries to take their life. And then I witnessed the level of pain experienced by four separate family friends who each lost loved ones to suicide, some due to shame they faced from their church communities because of their identity.

After Ren’s attempt, the situation became painfully clear. It didn’t matter if this was a phase. It didn’t matter what I was feeling. What mattered was this kid, right now, and the fact that they were hurting deeply. And I needed to figure out how I could help. We were given a second chance – a gift many others don’t receive, and I was determined to do better, to be better for all of our kids.

It seemed unfathomable to me that the church that had brought such joy and fullness to my life could be causing pain for others. I asked Ren to explain more about what hurt at church, and several examples were shared. But the one that hit home the most was a regular and repeated experience – a brother in the ward who reliably bore his testimony every month about Satan’s attack on the family. With tear-filled eyes, Ren looked at me and said, “They are talking about me, Mom. He thinks that I am Satan’s tool to destroy families.” Ren continued, “How could God love me but make me this way?” It was the first time those thoughts had ever occurred to me, and I had no answer for my child who was hurting so badly. But from that very day, I became determined to dig in and learn more, to understand the pain points and to do a better job protecting. When I took my pleas to the Lord, they changed from “Change my child” to “Change me, help me to see.” As the Lord always does, He answered clearly and precisely: “Just love, without preconditions, without judgement, and without requirement to change.” I had four years to educate myself and to learn before life would change again.

One of the blessings for Brenden and I during the 2020 pandemic was lots of family time and many conversations that helped our kids to understand how we truly wanted to be supportive. Our daughter Eme (she/her), then 13, opened up in a tearful conversation and shared that she was pansexual. Five minutes into that conversation, our then 11-year-old son Jackson (he/him) burst into the room. He could tell he had walked into something important since we were crying together, and he started to back out of the room. Eme made eye contact with him and said, “I told her.” My response was, “Wait, he already knew?” To which my son responded that he might was well share his news, too: he was omnisexual (attracted to any gender, with a male preference) and gender fluid! That was a lot for one conversation! But the feeling was so palpably different than our first experience with a child coming out. I felt relief that we knew so early, without years of trying to hide and repress feelings. I felt so much gratitude that Ren had paved the way so that their siblings could have an entirely different experience.

Our oldest daughter, Courtney (she/her), got married civilly during the pandemic and about a year later came out in a Facebook post as bisexual. She shared this information with her new husband, Casey, prior to their marriage and he was nothing but supportive of her. He’s a keeper! She delayed telling us because she was worried that we would struggle with her decision to leave the church and that four LGBTQ kids might “put us over the edge.” By that point, I was a little bit relieved that for the first time, we were all in this together, in a different way than we had ever experienced before. We are making the decision to “come out” as a family together now because we want to celebrate how far we have come and to emphasize that there is no shame in the way the Lord made each of us. We are so incredibly proud of the amazing, talented, artistic, funny and empathetic children we have been blessed with. They have taught us the true meaning of love. We are better because they are part of our lives. We have told them repeatedly – and we mean it – that we will love whomever they choose to share their lives with!

These experiences have brought Brenden and I closer to the Savior, and to explain that further, I need to share a bit about my job. I am an architect and I work for the church in the Special Projects Department. I oversee the design of new temples in a large part of the world, and I have been participating in this work in some form or another since 2016, just months before Ren came out.

As I came to better understand the trauma our LGBTQ kids were carrying, I came to understand why the temple was such a source of pain for many. I have had tearful, honest conversations with my kids about the reality of their ability to attend the temple now and in the future. At times, it has seemed ironic to me that the majority of my time and effort on a daily basis is spent engaged in building temples that my own children may not be able to attend. It hurt tremendously, often more than I had words to explain. I don’t think it is a coincidence that I work where I do and that all my children are LGBTQ. It has given me the opportunity to search deeply for answers from the Lord.

As I repeatedly took my concerns to the Lord in the temple, several things were made clear to me. First, the valiant example of Eve: her ability to evaluate truth and evil and make a courageous choice allowed the unfolding of the Lord’s plan. She is someone I can emulate and admire as a mother and a woman who bravely does hard things. Second, the blessings pronounced in the temple go both forward and backward in time, they impact my ancestors and my children, and are based solely on my ability to keep my covenants, not theirs. Third, it was no accident that the focus of the temple is on the beauty and variety of the Lord’s creations. My children, and others like them, were beautifully and wonderfully created in His image and were some of the most valiant spirits saved for these latter days. That last truth came as I sat in a celestial room and looked up at the beautiful chandelier and saw hundreds – if not thousands -- of tiny rainbows. It literally took my breath away. I was also blessed with the opportunity to take my whole family to the open house and rededication of the Raleigh, NC temple, one of my earliest temple projects. As we sat in the celestial room together, I had the thought that it might be the only opportunity we would have, in this life, to be with our children in the temple and how grateful I was that we at least had that experience together. I was filled with tremendous peace that everything would be ok, and I have often looked back on that experience for peace and reassurance from the Lord.

We try to Lift + Love our children by believing them. We talk about everything honestly and openly. We try to help them process things that hurt, including comments and attitudes of others -- sometimes close friends. They have our permission to leave a space that doesn’t feel safe and to advocate for themselves and others. We are also working on allowing them the space and time they need to create their own relationship with the Savior and to understand that His love is not transactional; it does not need to be earned. The Lord has slowly been teaching me that I don’t have to hold on so tightly. He loves these kids infinitely more than I do – which is hard to imagine. Whether they stay members is not important; what matters most is that they connect with Him and feel His love in a way they can understand.

As for my husband and I, we feel called to stay, to tell our story, and to advocate for safety and inclusion. I believe that truly listening to each other and learning from each other paves the path to real Christlike love. Listening to the stories of other LGBTQ members as well as my own kids ultimately changed my heart. My desire is that one day we, as members of the church, will open our hearts and our minds to everyone and that we will have a desire to truly magnify our baptismal covenants -- to mourn with those who mourn and comfort those who stand in need of comfort -- with both our words and our actions. Church will be a place to come and heal, regardless of the trials and challenges we face individually and ALL will be welcome on the pews. We will be able to love without preconditions, without requirement to change -- to love like He loves!

We’d like to thank Tanya Davis for sharing her beautiful family story.

THE VON PINGEL FAMILY

Each week, Teddi and Eric von Pingel experience a different type of Sunday than they once envisioned. For Teddi, it’s a physically taxing endeavor as she now serves as the ASL interpreter coordinator for a Deaf ward in Lehi, UT, where Eric teaches Sunday School. While they dutifully raised their three children in the church, partly out of gratitude for the roots planted by their convert parents, Teddi and Eric now attend alone. The von Pingels once adhered to “all in” gospel living, never questioning what they’d been taught; but now, they regularly question how best to navigate the waters of loving both their LGBTQ children and their church, of which their youngest two no longer feel a part.

It wasn’t always this way. Before they married, Teddi served an ASL mission in North Carolina and Georgia. Eric equally loved his time as an elder in Montevideo, Uruguay. They were committed to raising their kids (Olivia – 23, D’Artagnan – 21, and Sophia – 17) in their faith. All three attended seminary, and their older two graduated. Teddi says they were taken by surprise when Olivia announced her plans to serve a mission after high school graduation, as she had always said she wouldn’t be doing that. But she accepted a call to McAllen, TX - Spanish speaking. About a week after her departure, the von Pingels got a call that Olivia was experiencing debilitating anxiety. Not eating, not sleeping, she was miserable. Her parents referenced their own experiences as missionaries and told her, “You can do this; we know it’s hard.” But the anxiety got worse, and after several more weeks, Olivia’s mission president put her on a plane to go home. 

Her homecoming was the beginning of Olivia’s journey of learning to love herself. Olivia still attended church at that point, as she tried to work through what it meant to come home early, even though all her leaders assured her she had served honorably. Gradually, she became less active. Teddi recalls, “I had several promptings she was experiencing same-sex attraction. When I prayed about it, I’d feel ‘This is not your journey, you have to be there for her and let her experience this’.” When Teddi would talk to her daughter about the emotions she was experiencing, she’d ask, “Is there anything else you’d like to talk to me about?” Olivia would reply, “I don’t know, Mom, I don’t know.” 

One of the blessings of Covid was the amount of time the family spent together. Finally one day, Olivia approached her mom and said, “I need to be honest with you – I’m bisexual; I’m attracted to women.” Teddi responded, “I already felt that’s what you were going to say – I love you, and I’m proud of you for being who you are.” Teddi continues, “Come to find out, I was one of the last to know. She was afraid I’d be disappointed in her. I think that came from teachings from the church. But I reassured her, ‘I love you, you’re my child first, I will always choose you. Now you’ve got to tell your dad’.” And in walked Eric, who joined them on their couch of tears. Eric also told Olivia, “I love you so much and I’m so proud of you for telling us.”

Teddi recalls that as one of the most beautiful days of her life: “The day my child trusted me to be who she is. I take that as a great honor – to have a child comfortable enough to tell me.” Their conversation took a turn as Olivia then dovetailed into telling her parents she just didn’t think the church was true anymore, saying, “I can’t be a part of a church that doesn’t accept me for who I am. I was trying so hard and what I was experiencing would be seen as unrighteous even though I had never had a serious relationship with anyone, or done anything.” This became a troubling point for Teddi as well – how so many focus on the physical aspects of being LGBTQ, when in reality, so many of these kids haven’t even had that opportunity.

Olivia soon stopped attending church altogether, and struggled with her parents’ continued activity in a church she felt didn’t accept her. Teddi responded, “Sweetie, I don’t know what else to do. It might take me time to navigate all this.” Again, Teddi felt grateful for the home church focus during the pandemic, and that they had time to process their future together. Siblings D’Artagnan and Sophia completely love and support Olivia, and while D’Artagnan is still active in his singles’ ward, Sophia soon after stopped attending seminary, saying she couldn’t attend a church that doesn’t love and accept her sister. Within the last six months, Sophia, now a junior in high school, has also told her parents that she identifies with the “Q” of “LGBTQ:” she’s questioning. 

The von Pingels continue to love and support each other where they’re at, and Teddi values their strong family unit. She cringes when she hears parents say things like, “I’d rather my child die than be gay,” something she’d never want to imagine. And she both thanks and laments figures in their past who affected their own views about what it means to have a gay child. Teddi and Eric are grateful for the various LGBTQ coworkers, friends and family members they have who they had the opportunity to care for and root for before they had a child needing them to apply those actions inhouse. And while they offer him grace, they’re a little less grateful for an older neighbor and former home teacher they once had who chose not to support his own gay child, even refusing to attend his wedding because he “didn’t want to send the wrong message.” Teddi feels bad that this experience really stayed with Olivia who withheld her own feelings from her parents for a long time, feeling like, “If that person couldn’t support his own child, how could he ever accept me?” In contrast, the von Pingels also have a fabulous neighbor who sent a note around the neighborhood offering to distribute Pride flags to anyone who might want to share their love and support for their LGBTQ friends during Pride month. “Those small acts – we see. Those of us struggling to fit in, or who have a child who struggles to fit in and who wants nothing to do with church… it’s just being a community member. We see every single thing people put out – flags, mats.  Such simple, great gestures,” says Teddi.

Since quarantine has ended, the von Pingels are transitioning to a new normal, which has proven to be an adjustment. Where they live, Teddi says, “It can be hard to know how to make friends when you’re not part of the church community.” But Olivia wants to get out there and date. A former student at UVU, she now is following her brother’s path and is in the coding program at Lambda. Over the past three years, she’s also diligently woken up to work the 5am shift at Hruska’s Kolaches. (Teddi’s had to diligently ask her to stop bringing the delectable treats home anymore.)

While their daughters have stepped away from the church, Olivia and Sophia recognize and appreciate that their parents still embrace the ideals of service and community which Teddi credits as pillars of the church. Otherwise, they’re struggling to “make sense of all this contradiction in what they’ve been taught and the message in their heads.” There are a lot of questions. But Teddi says there came a day when she asked, “How can we be of service still?” That is when she decided to put her ASL skills to use once again to attend the nearby Lehi 44th deaf ward. She says, “For some reason, I feel Olivia can accept that – she knows the deaf community and their struggles and that they are grateful for our presence there. The deaf community is more loving and accepting of all people where they’re at. We’re not sure how long this will last, but for now, this is where we need to be.” 

Teddi says in some ways, their journey reminds her of themes in the recent Oscar-winning film, CODA, which follows a deaf family and their hearing child as she debates whether to follow her dreams to become a singer or stay behind to help translate for her parents. Teddi says, “I feel like that movie has another symbolic meaning for parents of LGBTQ – how do they choose? How do we choose? Do you sign? Do you not sign? Do you stay with your family, or pursue your own path? It can feel like a deaf parent who doesn’t fully understand their hearing child. How do you support and love and lift a child when what they’re experiencing is outside your own experience? You just have to believe them.”

And when it comes to her own beliefs, Teddi says, “I don’t know about a lot of things in the church anymore, but I know I have Heavenly Parents who love me and love my children. That’s where I’m staking my flag – and it’s a Pride one.”

THE BAILEY FAMILY

Right around his 13th birthday, in February of 2020, Liam Bailey came out to his mom, telling her he was nonbinary pansexual. This was a shock since the kid telling her this was assigned female at birth (AFAB) and had always seemed to loved pink, princesses, and girly things. “I was like, ‘I don’t even know what that means’,” laughs Tiffany. She may not have at the time, but now, just over two years later, Tiffany displays a remarkable ease and education in all things LGBTQ+, sparked by her allegiant trust in her teen’s unique journey.

Just before he came out, Liam had been struggling with his mental health. His anxiety levels startled his doctor. At an appointment, it also came out that there had been a suicide attempt. “I didn’t know there had been one or why, but clearly something was wrong. It was a lot,” says Tiffany. Her older son, Thomas (now 16), had also experienced some intense mental health challenges the year prior, so when Tiffany’s second child came to her in a similar state of turmoil, she says, “I kinda lost it and felt like I was failing as a parent. I thought, something has to change.”

After Liam entered therapy, he was able to vocalize that he’d been experiencing gender dysphoria, which ultimately led to his coming out to Tiffany, and then his dad, Brad. At first Tiffany wondered if Liam had been influenced by the GSA (Gay Straight Alliance) club at school he had joined, but as she listened more to his experience, she changed her mind and eventually realized, “As long as you stay alive, I’m happy with whoever you are.” With the help of a skilled therapist, Liam started to improve, and the emotional climate at the Bailey house gradually lightened. But at the same time, Tiffany felt like a rug had been pulled out from under her. “My child, who I thought was female, coming out as non-binary and then transgender male made me rethink a lot of things – I felt like I was trying to do everything right and checking all the boxes the church wanted me to. But really, I was in the box trying to make it look good on the outside. Inside, I was falling apart.” 

Luckily, Tiffany was able to reach out to a small network of friends - – a transgender neighbor, a fellow piano technician who is a trans woman, and another mother of a transgender child. They each shared the pain and tension they’d felt from certain family members who had not been accepting. Tiffany realized that these friends’ placement in her life prior to her own child coming out was a merciful way her Heavenly Parents had prepared her. And now, their advice helped her recognize the vital steps she would need to take to help Liam not just want to stay alive, but to thrive.

“I realized my heart had to break wide open. I had to trust in my Savior and my Heavenly Parents, and the answer I got from them was one of the strongest spiritual experiences I’ve had in my life. I was told, ‘We love your child more than you even know, and even more than you love him. We created him on purpose for a purpose. He has a path and things will be okay’. It was a beautiful, beautiful experience,” recalls Tiffany. She determined she wanted her child to know she loved him deeply without conditions, just as the Savior does.

The next prompting she felt was that she needed to be a support to other youth, as the nonbinary and trans experience is misunderstood by so many. Tiffany says, “Even just having one affirming person in your life can cut the risk of suicide by almost 50%. I’m going to be that person for as many people as I can.

It took her some time to get comfortable with rainbows, but now Tiffany wears one everywhere she goes, especially when she knows she’ll be around youth, to signal she’s a safe space. “More than once, I’ve had those youth tell me they like my pin, and ask where they can get one, or thank me for wearing one. So… it’s working.”

When Liam first came out as nonbinary, Tiffany trained her brain to think of his they/them preferred pronouns at the time, much as you would a lost item and say, “Somebody left their wallet...” Liam tried out several names with friends at school and discussed suggestions with his mother before centering on his chosen name of Liam. After continuing to meet with a therapist who specializes in gender and LGBTQ, Liam now feels the pronouns he/him ring more true. 

When it came to social transitioning, Tiffany acknowledges some things felt scary at first, having been trained to abide by societal constructs with dress and haircuts and the like, but Tiffany chose to learn about ways she could affirm her child medically, one being puberty blockers that buy time and are completely reversible. She has come to the conclusion that, “Medically transitioning is very personal and is really nobody else’s business. Transitioning has a very broad range. But ultimately, it’s not what’s under their underwear that makes them who they are – it’s who they say they are on the inside.” 

While Tiffany now makes it all sound easy, she acknowledges this all took some training and even mourning. “With a trans kid, there is a period of mourning – not for the loss of your child, but what you thought was going to happen. It’s a real process. The hard part is your body responds like you’ve lost a child, but in this case, no Relief Society is bringing you a casserole. You feel so alone, and without support. It’s a private, lonely pain.”

She continues, “The name we chose at birth had so much meaning – at times, his name change felt like a rejection of us. Then we realized it wasn’t him rejecting us but what we wanted for him. Now we know more. At the same time, it’s still painful.” One thing Tiffany’s learned is to master the words AND and BOTH. “I can love my child and support him, AND I can still be sad at times for things that aren’t and won’t be.”

Most important to Tiffany is showing Liam a mother’s unconditional love. ”I refuse to be a source of trauma for my child by not validating who he says he is. He is not confused about his gender. He’s not being deceived by Satan. He’s just trying to explain his mortal experience to a world that doesn’t understand. I don’t presume to know what his spirit was before this earth life – I don’t know if his body formed differently than what his spirit is, but we know that can happen on this earth. There’s a lot we don’t know. What I do know is I can believe him and support him for exactly who he says he is, and walk alongside him.” 

Tiffany also finds it ludicrous that with recent legislation, if she were to enter the state of Texas, per se, she’d automatically be labelled as a child abuser for affirming her son. She asks, “What’s the worse abuse? Ignoring my child’s trauma and suppressing who they say they are, or allowing them life-saving medical treatment and therapy? Because if he didn’t have that, I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t be here.”

Liam is now 15 and in the 9th grade in Syracuse, UT, where he is a 4.0 student and was awarded Student of the Month last fall. A teacher told Tiffany that they all deeply admire how Liam “knows who he is,” something many ninth graders still struggle with. Something Tiffany is grateful Liam is able to feel, both at school and at home. She says that all around, he is thriving. He is a team captain of his National Academic League, an amazing artist, and is involved in affirming roles in his junior high school’s drama program. While he has a great group of friends, he is not immune to hurtful comments from students – some “generally ignorant, some blatantly awful.” Their youngest child, daughter Rose -13 (a 7th grader, who Tiffany describes as a fantastic ally) is quick to stand up for LGBTQ students in the school.

Church is very complicated with a transgender child, as there is not really a place in a deliberately binary church, despite what leaders may say. Liam has chosen to step away from the church, a decision his parents fully support. Tiffany says that, “While our day to day box-checking church activity looks very different than it used to, my testimony of our Savior and relationship with my Heavenly Parents is very active and has never been stronger. It’s deepened in a way I couldn’t have imagined.” 

The Baileys participate in a monthly support group for LGBTQ+ and allies which they host at their house along with neighbor, and fellow LGBTQ parent, Becky Edwards. Of the meeting, Tiffany says, “Now that is a sacred space.”

While Liam’s initial coming out blindsided her, Tiffany now says with confidence, “I want Liam to be the best version of himself, not to conform to societal norms – just to be happy in his own skin, whatever that looks like for him. I want him to be authentic. There’s such a big spectrum of the human experience. We need to leave it up to the person to explain their experience to us and believe them, not put our presumptions and expectations on them and tell them who they are – they get to figure that out for themselves. I get to just love and accept at face value.”

the gruwell family

Just after Christmas, on January 13, 2021, our Elli told us that she is bisexual. She was 16 years old.

A series of events led me to feel impressed by the Spirit to ask Elli if she experiences an attraction to women. She opened up and shared that she doesid. Sitting across from me on my bed, she shared that she experiences a stronger attraction to women than men, and that she has a desire to embrace and explore this part of her life. This part of who she is. 

Life changed. We have put our arms around her and told her that we love her, and we always will;, she will always be a part of us. We told her we would navigate this road with her and walk with her wherever it took her. I told her if she married a woman, I'd throw a beautiful wedding for her, and we'd stand by her side.

But inside. my heart ached. Because I knew this would be a long road. Because I knew others wouldn’t understand like I do.  Because I knew this road may take her away from the very thing that gives me breath. 

The Lord prepared my husband, Matt, and I, and we were carried in His love during those first days. On the night she told us, I had a very strong, distinct impression from the Spirit that this experience would bless us. That this is what the Lord has always had planned for us. That this would cause us to dig deep and access places in our heart that we wouldn't be able to access otherwise. That we would become more like the Savior than we ever could in any other way imagined. That our life was always meant to be this way. Almost like there was something in our family,, in our reality and our space that was missing, that would now help us become more whole.

But somehow, it felt so deeply hard. Hard to reconcile emotions and feelings and dreams. Not hard to love her. Not hard to make our family a safe space. Not even hard to tell someone I have a gay child. It was just so hard as a parent to know what to do next, for her. What to do to help her be healthy and happy in this world of discrimination and fear. There's no map for this. It's really lonely.  

I learned long ago that life doesn't follow a "plan,", or an expected path.  It's an individual journey for each of us, and a lifetime of wrestling with a variety of realities that we each inevitably face.  Elli's journey is no different, and she will work with the Lord to determine what that journey will be. Not me. I've learned to relinquish that role as a parent. My job is to love her and teach her that the Lord loves her. Our love for her will never change. W, we will love and accept whatever choices she makes and whatever path she chooses. We feel peace with that. And we are handing it over to the Lord. I think we often try to take on the role of the Savior in our children's lives. It's not our job. We can't fix or heal. We can't convince or change. That is His job.
We can love. That's all we have been asked to do. And if our children choose a journey that takes them on a twisting, winding path to find that light and that love, that is simply ok. It was always meant to be that way.

I have had multiple experiences over the last decade that have caused me to wrestle with the Lord and have given me deep love and gratitude for His love and His doctrine. There is so much I don't understand, but hasn't it always been that way? Weren't we told that there would be mysteries that we don't understand? Haven't we been told that we would have to wait upon the Lord? Isn't that why faith is what it is? We are asked to walk into the dark and trust Him. To have faith that what we don't know;, He knows. It's a different kind of faith -- deep faith. The kind of faith that only comes when we are blind. 

The Lord has asked me to relinquish control over and over and over (and over) again in my life. I'm grateful for that repeated lesson that was preparing me, in ways I didn't know I'd need --, to do it again now. 

I believe the Lord knows each one of us personally and intimately. No tear is unseen. In the months that followed Elli’s coming out, my husband and I immersed ourselves in learning more, and in listening. We talked with Elli often, asking a lot of questions, both to show support and a willingness to learn and understand. It was no coincidence that I decided, through a series of heaven-led moments, to return to graduate school for my Master of Social Work degree not long before Elli came out. As bishop, my husband and I both felt impressed to start listening to how we could better minister to the LGBTQ+ community the year prior, with no real comprehension as to why. It is no coincidence that we live in a beautiful, small corner of Pennsylvania where the Young Women’s leaders have loved Elliher and asked her to share her thoughts and experiences in lessons, in her small class of six young women. It is no coincidence that she was part of a 13-year career in competitive gymnastics with a team that knows her and would love her and accept her. Elli, who has always had the biggest and kindest heart, is happier and healthier than she has ever been, and she believes her Heavenly Father knows her and He loves her. She knows we love her. I wouldn’t trade the love and joy in those relationships for any guaranteed outcome.

We have learned and grown so much on this journey. I have felt inadequate every step of the way, but I have heard the Lord whisper to me -- sometimes moment to moment, day byto day -- what to say, what to do, and where to turn. He has been guiding us, strengthening us, and reminding us that the conduit to heaven is real. I have felt my relationship with my Savior strengthen and my heart expand. We want to help others as they navigate this path. We want to say, “Wwe see you, we know it’s real,, sit with us., Yyou can talk about it and you can be open about it, and you can share the reality of it in this space. And you will be safe.” This cultural change is not only needed in the church;, it is needed everywhere. In our homes, in our schools, in our streets. From both a spiritual, personal, and professional space, I can tell you it is needed everywhere. It will save lives. Invalidating the core of a person’s identity has lasting effects that cannot be measured, causing deep trauma and deep wounds. It is such an important thing to humanize the unknown. The more stories we hear, the more we clarify and dispel the single story often defined and communicated to us through society. We must love, and leave the rest to the Lord.

Often in my conversations with people, I wrestle with the irreconcilable aspects of this road. What is right or wrong, what the doctrine says, what the future will be like, where God stands. I honor and respect that for some, the healthy choice is to step away from the church. I have a heart wide open in love for both those who stay and those who can’t.

I don’t know the answers. But for me, believing that God knows things that we don’t, that understanding can change and be increased over time, that things can be revealed, that there is so much we do not know, and that … saying “as we know it” to an array of topics and questionss… ..is foundational to having hope and faith, and being able to trust despite all the questions. I don’t say “as we know it” to dictate or even assume what changes will happen. I don’t claim to know the answers. I just know I can’t make sense of it right now, and I pray more clarity comes along the way. “As we know it” doesn’t represent doubt;, it represents faith. My role is not to determine or change doctrine. That is the Lord’s job -- and His alone. I will leave that to Him and trust Him. But I can change the way I love. I can change me. I can change my home. I can change my pew.

I have had so many moments of asking, as Emily Belle Freeman doesays, “Where is God and can He be trusted?” Are all the impressions I’ve had my whole life real? How does this fit into that picture? Am I wrong? Are they wrong? Maybe none of us are. Maybe all of us are. Am I understanding my impressions correctly? Are these Gods’ thoughts, or just my own? The list goes on. Faith is hard work. And sometimes I am tired. But then I feel the Savior give me strength from both seen and unseen sources, and I remember that it’s ok not to have the answers. That my life’s story -- Elli’s life story -- is young. Sometimes we put limits on the Lord and his timing with our expectations. Who is to say all our dreams won’t come true? I love the principle of not having our faith based on particular outcomes.

Sometimes I look around and realize that what is happening is exactly what I asked for. I asked to be stretched and molded to become more like my Savior. I asked for doors to be open where I could serve Him. I asked to be broken open, and made new. I promised long ago that I would listen to the Lord’s whisperings and try to do His will. Every step of our lives has been in hopes of serving and sacrificing for our Savior, in an effort to love all His children. This step will be no different. I love my Savior, Jesus Christ. I’m here, both in this church and in this space, because of Him. And because I’ve also knelt in the Sacred Grove. And in the temple. And I’ve had the heavens open in my life. I have had experiences I cannot deny. And I also have questions I cannot reconcile. That’s when I lay it at the Lord’s feet. Despite all that is unanswered, there are also answers to other deep questions of my heart that I cannot find anywhere else.

The loneliness and confusion I experienced, sitting in my corner of the world in those first moments on that January day, were stark and overwhelming. It's amazing how alone you can feel... ..until all of a sudden you realize you are not. That's my hope. That I can help another mother who feels alone in her corner of the world, feel less heartache, and less loneliness. We want to carry these burdens together. We want to share our deep love of the gospel and desire to love and support our daughter at the same time. We want to share that we do believe those two realities can exist. We have access to heaven’s power. We are not alone. You are not alone. Your family was always meant to be this way.

The Gruwell Family consists of Stacie and Matt and their four children: Ashlan (21), Elli (18), Kate (13), and Monty (8). They live in Harborcreek, PA, where Matt is a professor of genetics and evolution at Penn State University, and Stacie works in mental health at a junior high school.

Elli will be attending Utah State University on a scholarship with the Huntsman School of Business Scholar Program this coming Fall. She looks forward to coaching gymnastics, and continuing her passions in vocal performance and digital art. 

THE TALBOT FAMILY

Last Saturday night, 42 parents met at the base of Y Mountain in Provo, UT. Industrial-strength flashlights in hand, they were ready to hike to the top. To get there, they’d need to circumvent BYU’s newly installed orange fencing and prohibitive signage, as well as bypass two patrol cars parked at the path’s entrance. The night was cold, but they were on fire with the fervor of their mission – to shine a rainbow of light that would remind their LGBTQ kids that they’re seen and loved. Charalece Talbot helped distribute the lights (that have lived in her garage over the past year) to the other parents – many anonymous, all willing to risk arrest and fines to complete their mission. Some might call it a protest, but for these parents, Saturday night’s hike to the Y was part of a movement.

 This would be the third rainbow-themed lighting of the 380-foot-tall Y that has become the nationally recognized insignia for BYU, a campus that as of late has had a complicated relationship with its LGBTQ population due to various policies and speeches bestowed by its leadership. The lighting of the Y events, initiated in March of 2021 by Charalece’s son, Brad, has garnered national attention, and BYU’s finger wagging.

Charalece never predicted any of this would be her path when her firstborn entered her and husband Paul’s world in Pleasant Grove, UT 24 years ago. Brad is the oldest of their six children (which also include Preston – 21, Kailene – 19, Breanna – 17, Sterling – 14, and Aliza – 9). When he was younger, Charalece only had mild suspicions Brad might be gay, but she never asked. It wasn’t until he was serving a mission in Winnipeg, Canada that Brad finally emailed his parents to tell them about his orientation. Charalece appreciated this approach, as it gave her time to process and study before he returned home nine months later, and most importantly, to “not say something stupid I would later regret.” Charalece turned to church resources for guidance and was a little surprised at how little she found, so she turned via blogs to “the experts” – i.e. the parents in this space, much as she had sought out forums of a different kind when her son Preston was diagnosed with autism as a toddler. Charalece was dismayed to find how rare it was for a gay member to stay in the church. She mourned a bit as she came to terms with the notion that her son, who was serving a mission, “might not always be a part of the church I love in the way I thought.” But Charalece clung to her faith that, “The Lord has been a part of our whole journey; I knew I could not do this without Christ.”

Once back from Canada in 2018, Brad started his education at BYU, from where he would later graduate in 2021. (He’s headed to Boston College this fall to pursue a MSW). During Brad’s junior year at the Y, he decided he needed to do something to help his fellow LGBTQ peers feel a little less alone – a common reality for many he’d met. He started Color the Campus, an initiative asking allies to show up to campus in rainbow colors twice a year, once in September and once on March 4 – the anniversary of BYU’s Honor Code policy reversal in 2020 that confused and angered many LGBTQ students. A day he wanted to make something positive. Brad’s @colorthecampus IG handle states his mission: “We will support, protect, befriend, and love members of the LGBTQ+ community at all CES schools.”

 The Talbots’ extended family has always shown enthusiastic support for Brad, and Charalece was touched when all his BYU cousins showed up in full rainbow gear to support his first event. She was even more moved when on the first two “Rainbow Days,” it rained in Provo, casting beautiful rainbows across the sky and visible from campus. “Sometimes you just want God to give a sign – and sometimes he does it in such simple ways,” she says.

 But Brad’s movement was not without backlash. A protest was advertised by alt-right group DezNat, though its showing was paltry, and Charalece says Brad has received countless cruel messages from keyboard warriors. While the Rainbow Days can be hard for Brad, she admires his dedication to the cause.

The first lighting of the Y (on 3/4/21) was carried out by 42 well-organized allies. After receiving a copy of Brad’s detailed instructions via Google docs, Charalece summoned her like-minded sister to join her for the hike, needing her own arm of support. Charalece was much more nervous than Brad was about repercussions, fearing it could affect his ability to graduate. But Charalece remembers that first lighting as a deeply spiritual experience. When everyone took their posts and first turned on their screen-tinted lights, they let out a cheer. And then a stillness set over the mountain, as they basked in their solidarity and this symbol of love. Charalece began getting texts from family members across the valley, imploring her to look out her window at the rainbow Y. She laughed, realizing the success of their secrecy – no one knew she was actually at the foot of the Y, holding a purple light herself. After an hour, their legs shaking from their awkward slanted perch and cold, the participants made their way down the mountain, only to be met by a crowd of 8-10 students running up, eager to relieve them of their posts and offering to take a turn themselves. “That was when I realized we’d made an impression, we’d done something. Others wanted to be involved. And it was a life lesson. Right when we were thinking, ‘I can’t do this anymore,’ someone showed up to say, ‘Let me take that burden.’ Sometimes we have to pass the baton.”

There were no repercussions from the event, besides a tweet BYU sent clarifying they had not authorized the event. But that night was a turning point for Charalece. She felt, “I’m just a mom, but I just did something that mattered. Being a mom isn’t always tangible. That night I saw I actually did something good. I didn’t just say, ‘I love you;’ I showed my love. I made a difference.” Her participation was also a turning point for Charalece’s relationship with her son, Brad, who she says now has no doubt she fully supports him.

After the lighting, it took days for Charalece to read through the hundreds of messages of support on social media. She remembers bawling, so caught up in the emotion of all the kids saying they felt seen, heard, and loved. “I want them to remember that. When they feel lonely, that there’s no one, I want them to remember the night we lit the Y. They have people, allies, those who love them unconditionally. Hopefully that will carry them as long as they need it.”

The next lighting in the fall was not a secret and approximately 100 people came to hold flashlights, this time many of them LGBTQ+. Again, there were no repercussions. But as both the online support (and backlash) for the lighting events grew, last weekend’s event remained undercover (yet anticipated). When the No Trespassing signs went up, Charalece started to wonder if maybe they should skip it this year, hoping not to put any BYU students or faculty at risk of disciplinary action. But then, a father called her to say, “I think your son did the lighting of the Y. I’ve been talking to some other dragon dads and we want to do it this time. Moms can come, too. I’m not asking permission – I just need to know the logistics and if we can borrow the lights.”  

Due to weather, the date shifted three times, and with each change, the pit in Charalece’s stomach grew. “I’ve never felt more anxiety,” she says. Traditionally a quiet and reserved rule follower, Charalece feared having to help summon 42 rounds of bail money from a county jail, or worse. The night before the lighting, she barely slept. But then she felt a strange prompting that brought to mind scripture heroes who had defied the norms: Rebecca regarding her sons’ blessings, Nephi smiting Laban’s head. She heard the words, “Their rules are not my rules. Have courage. I need you to do this.” And she did.

Charalece and Brad were followed last weekend by a film crew from HULU, for a 20/20 segment they’re shooting on LGBTQ LDS members. Much of the series follows church members who (understandably) leave because of their orientation, but reps from the show have told Brad they admire how he is trying to stay and make it work. Charalece herself says she often envies Brad’s relationship with the Savior. “He goes through a lot of crap, and he follows his heart.” As to the naysayers who speak against Brad’s Color the Campus or lighting the Y efforts, Charalece replies, “If you can show me something as good as this or better, I’ll do it. It’s a simple nonviolent thing that has a huge impact.”

Besides the film crew and potentially the police, the Talbots were also nervous DezNat might be on their tail Saturday night as they’d been tipped off, so tensions were high Saturday night. After handing out the final lights, Charalece and Brad were the last to approach the entrance to the path. They walked toward the BYU police, then past them. Like the parents who had hiked up before them, they were not stopped. Once at the top, Brad told the participants their demonstration might be short-lived, knowing the cops could quickly reach them via ATV. He cued the crowd and they each hit the on switch to commence lighting the Y with first the pink and blue hues of the trans flag, to show support to the many suffering from various recent national and local policies. They waited, but no one came to stop them. After 15 minutes, they switched their lights to rainbow colors. Again, no one came to shut them down.

But soon after, Charalece looked up and saw a lone BYU policeman making his way up to the top of the Y and talking to each of the light holders in a non-threatening way. She overheard he offered some water. Still, her anxiety returned as she waited for him to descend down the Y, where she held her blue light. As he neared, she realized she recognized the man. He was a family friend. They softened as they faced each other. She asked, “What’s going on? Why the fences this year?” He replied, “I just think they’re trying to keep this a neutral place so people don’t get too carried away.” He continued, “I don’t want all this to happen. You guys are doing a good thing and what BYU is doing isn’t helping. I’m sorry this is happening. I wish it wouldn’t. I just have to do my job and remind you you’re on private property and ask you to leave.” Charalece replied, “I respect that this is your job and that you’re treating us so respectfully. I’m a mom of a gay son and I’m just doing my job.” As she said this, she noticed her friend tear up, in a moment of shared understanding. This is how Charalece believes real change will come – one heart, one connection at a time.

Charalece and Brad were the last to leave the mountain, making sure nothing was left behind. On their descent, Brad told his mom if their group was arrested at the bottom, he wanted to take full responsibility so none of the parents would end up in jail. She responded, “Brad, you do not need to take this all on your own. Give it to me.” Saying this brought to light so much she had felt over the years as Brad’s mom. “What parent doesn’t want to take away their child’s pain? Their heartache and sadness? Every parent would in a heartbeat. But we realize our kids have to go through what they do to grow, to turn to Christ.” Charalece recalled that shortly after Brad told her he was gay, she too offered a desperate prayer in which she told the Lord she couldn’t do this anymore. She said, “This is too hard for me, so I know it will be too hard for him. I’m giving it to you. I need you to do this.” And she felt the Lord take away the burden of worry to lighten her load.

When Charalece and Brad finally hit the bottom of the trail, they were shocked to see there was no one lying in wait to arrest them. In fact, the police cars were gone. Later, they were told that the police had not come that night to stop them but to protect them from any potential harm.

“That’s when I realized the Lord was right – I was going to be okay; I was doing just what I needed to be. Sometimes our rules are not His. He is in the details,” says Charalece. “I want to be brave, because I need these kids to know I’m willing to do something out of my comfort zone to show them love. They live in fear daily. I want them to not be afraid. I’m just trying to be the best I can, and if I have to go to jail to show people I love them, I can’t think of a better reason to go to jail then for shining a light that tells people ‘I love you’.”

THE CARPENTER FAMILY

An openly gay missionary. Most people have yet to meet one. Some may wonder if it’s even possible. But Elder Shane Carpenter’s smile shines brightly above his missionary tag and the rainbow heart pin he wears while serving full-time within the circumference of “the happiest place on earth,” in Anaheim, CA. Elder Carpenter is beloved among his fellow missionaries, and most importantly, by his mission president, who has seen closeted missionaries struggle. The president committed not to let that experience repeat and has thus made it a priority to make his mission a zone of safety and love for all. He even did a mission wide training with Elder Carpenter’s help on how to best minister to our LGBTQ+ community. 

While Shane is loving his mission, getting him there wasn’t the rote just send in your papers and wait two weeks for your call process many experience. Shane had always had a very firm testimony of his Savior and desire to serve in this capacity, but due to his unique circumstances, his parents did not want him to sign up for a mission unless he was really ready, and his application included the words “Openly gay” at the top. It was full authenticity or bust. Knowing it could be a really tough situation, his mom Diane says, “Until he could own who he was, we didn’t support it. I didn’t want to send him on a mission hiding in a closet.”

Shane had come out publicly in 2019 via a middle-of-the-night Instagram post his parents woke up to. But this wasn’t a surprise for his parents. In fact, Diane had known since his preschool years. When he was about four, she counts it as a blessing that she felt the Spirit speak the words, “He is gay.” While she was comforted to have this tip off of a revelation so early in the game, it was still a lot to process “for the LDS mom in me,” she says. She was raised in an open-minded family who wholly loved her gay cousins. While talk of their gay family members had always been positive in her home, Diane says, “That doesn’t mean I fully understood at the time what that really meant in the big picture.” 

Diane kept this knowledge about their son quiet for about four more years, and then told her husband, “I think Shane’s gay, honey.” Together, they kept it on the down low, especially as Shane himself wasn’t aware yet. But around the time he turned 10, he started to notice he was… different. From his friends. From his twin brother, Logan. From most of the kids in his classes. And by this time, his parents were prepared to help him find the words to vocalize it. Shane didn’t come out publicly, and he certainly struggled for many years harboring a quiet depression. Diane says she’s sure many of the kids at school could have guessed he was gay – “It’s something you might kind of pick up on when you meet Shane.” At the time, the family lived in Austin, TX, where Shane had lots of friends and he’d often go on group dates with friends from church. Diane says, “Every girl loved him.” He continued to be the bright, bubbly boy on the outside he always was (“To know Shane is to love him”), but at home he was dealing with major depression and suicidal ideation. For Diane and husband Scott, it was a really hard time. They felt they’d lost their boy. 
They prioritized counseling, and Diane felt a glimmer of hope one day when she was driving Shane home from a session and he expressed a realization: “Mom, this is just part of me. It’s not all of me.” Diane says, “As it sank in that this was just one beautiful part of him, he was able to stop feeling like it had to control him.” That is when Diane said he began to make progress with his mental health. The Carpenters moved to West Jordan, UT right before Shane’s senior year, and she was pleasantly surprised that this ended up being great timing for him. As he moved into a new high school, he was able to just be himself and let go of the years of trying to hide or sort through complex feelings. He finally fully embraced he was gay, and Diane says she felt, “I had my son back.”

After high school, Shane went to BYU-I where he had a remarkably positive experience. He befriended some other gay students who were all supportive of each other. It was during this time Shane came out publicly on Instagram, then started to speak of going on a mission. With his parents’ encouragement, he took it slow. First, he went to the temple. A year later, he started his mission papers. He was 20 by the time he turned them in, enough time for him to be able to embrace his authentic self. He started the process with his BYU bishop, then continued when he came home. All were cautious. Diane and Scott didn’t want him going to a country where being gay was punishable by crime, thus the “openly gay” note on his papers. But it took a while for Shane to get his call. SLC church headquarters had called his stake president with a few more questions, and he was called back in for another interview. None of this bothered Shane, but Diane said the extra scrutiny was hard for her, who’d already sent two children on missions. “This is a gay kid choosing to go out for the Lord,” she says. She didn’t understand why it needed to be made harder with the stigma of extra questioning that could have been part of the initial process. Luckily, Shane had already been evaluated by LDS Services for his mental health, because if not, that would have added an extra delay.

But the added delays in all this did make it easier for Shane to enter the Anaheim mission field at the same time as his mission president, who has been exceptionally understanding and supportive from start to finish. Right when he arrived, the president told Shane, “I have your back. No one’s going to treat you in a negative way because you’re gay.” And he has kept his word. Diane says Shane’s setting apart blessing from his stake president was beautiful. It advised that he would affect even more people outside his mission than in it, something that has proven true as Shane has been able  to share his unique experience on various forums with other LGBTQ missionaries, investigators, and friends throughout the world.  

Elder Carpenter does not tell people that this path in the church is easy, but shares truths he learned at home from his mom. Diane says, “We didn’t vocalize to our kids the need to say, ‘We know the church is true.’ Rather we say, ‘We know the gospel of Jesus Christ is true. The church is a vehicle to teach that. Even prophets are fallible men, mistakes can happen. But Christ is perfect, and we can lean on that.’ This knowledge is vital for us and probably why my son is on a mission today.” 

Shane is very aware that there are many paths to God and recognizes that there are various ways to return to Him. He was open with his stake president about the fact that he had dated men before his mission, and his family (and stake president) believe that the law of chastity is and should be the same for everyone. “It’s not the law of ‘you can’t hold hands, date, or kiss someone’,” says Diane. She recognizes that human connections and relationships are key to securing the happiness of all her children. The Carpenter kids include Whitney Graham – now 27, and married to Andrew Graham, and the mother of Kennedy; Jordyn Watson – 26 and married to Miles; twins Shane and Logan – 22; and Joshua – 14, and Abigail – 14 who completed the family through the gift of adoption.  Diane says many of her kids have struggled with their mental health, so recently she got a semicolon tattoo as a symbol of the mental health awareness movement: “Wait, there’s more.” Diane filled the punctuation mark with the rainbow colors – one for each of her six children. (And to represent the LGBTQ community.)

Recently, the Carpenters’ second oldest, Jordyn, came out as nonbinary gender-fluid (pronouns they/them), and they have been wholly embraced by their family through the process. When Jordyn initially came out as bi at age 17, Diane says she didn’t handle it quite as well as she wishes she had, acknowledging at the time she was caught up in Shane’s mental health issues. But now she is grateful for the extreme grace and forgiveness Jordyn shows her. Diane is also so impressed by the love and support from Jordyn’s husband, Miles, saying, “I love, love, love him!” 

Diane says her family loves the gospel of Jesus Christ. The Carpenters have since moved to Castlerock, CO, where they host a monthly FHE for ALL (LGBTQ, allies, and leaders) out of their home, hoping to “provide a safe place where everyone can be authentic and share their love of the Savior.”

THE BENCH FAMILY

After 14 years of marriage, Lindsey and Keegan Bench of Spokane, WA have defined their role in their church and community as strong allies willing to speak up in love for the marginalized. Because this was a found path for them, rather than an inherent one, they bring the added asset of understanding where others are coming from who might still struggle to be stone catchers in a world filled with stone throwers. But Lindsey and Keegan are the first to admit, it took time to get here. In fact, when Lindsey’s brother first came out as gay over a decade ago, they weren’t even on the same page with each other when it came to understanding LGBTQ issues. Now, united in their quest to break down the fortresses that prevent us from fully embracing God’s love for all, Lindsey and Keegan Bench are grateful to have glimpsed what it means to expand the tent of  Zion.

Lindsey says she was born and bred in the “typical, picture-perfect Mormon family.” But their Utah county home was rocked when Lindsey’s brother came out while in high school. Without proper resources to support him, the family struggled to know what to do. Some local church leaders advised Lindsey’s parents they were not to let her brother take the lead of his life, and tried to give counsel as to how he could try to be straight and dismiss this aspect of himself. But all this did was make her family sense that perhaps they could not trust their priesthood leaders. Newlyweds Lindsey and Keegan were living at home at the time with her parents and brother, and they sadly watched as some ward members who had always embraced her brother quietly pulled away. Lindsey reasons, “I know it wasn’t malicious; they didn’t know how to respond. But it was painful watching my family end up on an island. A community  that once felt safe and sacred suddenly didn’t feel so safe.”

Even some extended family members distanced themselves, and Lindsey was hurt when they’d ask about every family member except her brother, as if they’d erased him from their lives. It hurt even worse when years later, they would avoid the topic of his wedding altogether, as if it never happened. But all along, inside Lindsey’s home, each of her immediate family members had the same personal revelation: to just love their  brother, and to each figure out what that meant for them. For Lindsey, she felt something like the cracking of a shell -- a pull to deconstruct and break down everything she had been taught about the heteronormative, gender-focused, family-centric “plan” as she reevaluated where her family now fit. 

Lindsey’s shell continued to crack as she would sit through talk after talk in church that would “remind me my brother’s desire for true companionship  was a ‘sin.’ But as I watched him pursue that desire, it didn’t look and feel like a sin to me. This was hard for me to reconcile.” As she reflected on the future of her promised eternal family unit, Lindsey realized that a kingdom that excluded gay family members was no heaven at all. She says, “I’d rather be in a lesser place with my whole family than with a God who wouldn’t allow some of them in because of their desire for the wholeness found in committed, intimate relationships. So many things started to not make sense.” As the church evolved in their teachings (by eventually acknowledging that people don’t choose to be gay, and can’t change it), Lindsey continued to question. “Policies created ‘in the name of God’ that excluded people from saving ordinances in the church were SO painful. Then, we saw the same policies rescinded in the name of God. It was like… is God homophobic, or are they not? Why can’t God make up their mind? It was then I realized this isn’t God’s problem; it’s ours. When we as humans put our own prejudices and faults on God, people give up on God. And that’s on us. It’s painful.”

Lindsey had moments when she found herself telling others, “We’re just so grateful my brother doesn’t have a testimony of the church because he doesn’t have to reconcile who he is.” One day, she says she realized how absurd that felt – knowing her family member was healthier, safer, and happier because he was no longer in the church. At the same time, she was watching one of her close, LDS gay friends struggle with depression and suicidal thoughts while he tried to stay in the church. “The happiness we are promised if we do what we’re told – which for them at the time would be to enter a mixed-orientation  marriage – does not only NOT bring happiness, but destroys lives. It was hugely problematic and eye-opening for me.”

As Lindsey internally processed all this, she struggled with her construct of God. Rather than trusting God, she started to fear Him. But ironically, she says it was attending her brother’s wedding that started to reverse that. She’d grown up hearing “the gay agenda” would destroy families, but as she watched the happiness of her brother and his adored-by-all husband as they committed their lives to each other, Lindsey no longer believed that. She officially realized his marriage in no way hurt her own. Lindsey says it was “a holy, joyous experience watching my brother and his husband find each other, and the healing that took place. He came alive; we had our brother back.” Her family describes the wedding as a beautiful day and they were pleased so many from their ward and his life did show up to celebrate.

Lindsey admits she had never actually asked God if gay marriage was wrong until her brother’s wedding – “probably out of fear.” But now she says she’s “so grateful for the personal revelation I received that God would not ask people to forgo companionship in this life. Honestly, the sweet fruits of my brother's beautiful love with his husband are  what introduced me to the real God for the first time. This opening has healed me, taught me about my own worth, and the worth of all souls.”

Keegan says he’s now on the same page as his wife, though he took a more circuitous path to get there. In the early days of their marriage, Keegan faithfully embraced the religious dogma of the time that led him to believe that homosexuality was wickedness and could never bring happiness. He admits, “Like Elder Packer, I refused to believe that a loving God would allow anyone to be born ‘that way’ and as a result there would be a way to reverse those ‘innate tendencies’ while in this life.” But over time, that quandary took on new weight. Keegan explains, “As I began looking inward at my own sexual and gender identity and how it had developed naturally over time, I began to imagine being asked to reverse that process by any means possible. The prospect was sobering. I felt that if I was unwilling to give up my current relationship with Lindsey and my children, as a sacrifice for ‘something better’ in the eternities, then I could no longer ask others to do the same. I began to be haunted by the way I had dismissed the pain felt in the LDS-LGBTQ community. How I had assumed it was all natural consequences of sinful behaviors – God’s way of inviting them to repent. I realized it was actually me who needed to repent.” He began to transition from his allegiant obedience to “infallible church leaders” and instead began taking responsibility for his own actions and beliefs. “I began asking myself why I believed what I did, was I actually using the Spirit to guide my life or the words of select leaders? If I open my ears to some but close them to others, am I allowing the Spirit to testify of ALL TRUTH or just the stuff I’m willing to listen to? Using this newfound curiosity to seek out the lived experiences of all those around me has flooded my life with witness after witness that there is a loving God weeping with their LGBTQ children and not because of them, that their happiness is not in fact wickedness.”

It was then that Keegan began the painful process of repentance and educating himself. He credits the brave voices of the LGBTQ+ community found in books and podcasts for helping to prepare him for a profound spiritual experience he had while “walking in Ben Schilaty’s shoes,” via his book of a similar title. Having tasted the fruits of charity, he felt an urgency to better listen to, learn from, and love all who’ve distanced themselves from the church for any reason. Through calls and texts, Keegan reached out to over 50 friends and family members with differing beliefs in an attempt to ask forgiveness, mourn with those that mourn, celebrate their newfound joy, acknowledge the validity of their concerns, and share those concerns with other church members in hopes that we can do better. Keegan’s own role as a parent and desire for his kids to prioritize their relationships with each other helps him now better understand that as we focus on the first two commandments, that it’s the second one of loving our neighbors – all of them -- that helps us to more fully obey the first. “If we can really love those who we see and know, we can work toward loving a God we don’t exactly see every day. The reverse order is how we actually come to love God.“ Lindsey adds, “Sometimes I think about things in context and it becomes laughable. It’s silly to conceptualize God saying – ‘Oh dang, you loved others too much’.

As the floodgates of understanding broke open for Keegan, too, he and Lindsey came to a reckoning and committed to becoming dedicated allies. They joined Richard Ostler’s Ministering Resources for LGBTQ Facebook group, where they are vocal, and now encourage others to listen to the stories and voices willing to share on sites like Listen, Learn, and Love and Lift & Love. After their efforts to help their stake leaders plan events to increase LGBTQ+ understanding lost momentum, the couple started their own Spokane-area ally group, which has now met twice this year. The Bench family, along with their four children (Asher – 12, Ruby – 10, Milo – 7, and Luca – 4) “hardcore celebrated” last June’s Pride month, which they say may have put off some in their circles, while other relationships were strengthened or formed anew. But they concur they’re prepared to take hits along the way. They warn, “Stone catching is painful and resisting the urge to return fire is hard. Highlighting the stones and the wounds in charitable ways can help soften the hearts and lower the arms of those who continue to feel the need to defend themselves from those who they do not understand. As a church, we are not whole without these marginalized voices.” As Keegan and Lindsey have together embarked on the work of encouraging all to just love the many LGBTQ children coming to earth, they say they’ve also felt their own marriage strengthen. “We feel better prepared to approach the future with informed and unconditional love as stewards of the next generation – in our home, ward, and community at large.”

Lindsey says she is gratefully now at a place where, “I refuse to hurt people in the name of God anymore. In fact, God has asked me to do the opposite. When we put our shortcomings on God and hurt people in the name of God, that is taking Gods’ name in vain. It’s worshiping a false God. God has beckoned me over and over again to learn to just love, love, love. Letting go of the conditions placed on ‘God’s love’ has allowed me to remove those same conditions of love that I put on others and myself.  This has been the most freeing, healing, sacred work of my life and I’ve been humbled to experience it. I look forward to a lifetime of continual learning and big, bold love.” 

THE ROWELL FAMILY

To this day, it’s still hard for Penny Rowell to talk about without emotions resurfacing. It’s been almost a decade since her son Trevor, now 27, first came out to his parents, but he only felt safe coming out publicly in the past couple years. While his parents are so proud of him and optimistic for Trevor’s future, sometimes they wish they could go back and get a redo. To rewind and shield him from so many painful things heard at church. A decade ago, many in their circle – including Todd and Penny – were operating off limited understanding about what it means to be gay. But now, they are grateful for the plethora of resources available, and thus choose to be one themselves through sharing their story. 

When Trevor was about 18, Penny recalls sitting in a sacrament meeting when abruptly, her husband Todd got up with Trevor and left her and their other three boys (Brandon – now 25 and married to Kieryae, Tyler – 22, and Nathan – 18) behind. Penny texted her husband: “What’s going on?” Shortly after, Todd replied she needed to come home. Trevor was due to receive the Melchizedek priesthood in preparation for serving a mission, but something was weighing heavy on him. Penny and Todd don’t recall their oldest child ever saying, “I’m gay,” but that day was the first time he opened up to his parents and shared he had an attraction to guys. 

Because of what she’d been raised to believe in a predominately LDS culture, Penny says they replied with support but also thought this was something they could “work through” as a family and made an appointment for Trevor to meet with the bishop. Trevor talked with 3 different bishops as well as his mission president over the years, and the advice was always the same. That if he said his prayers, read scriptures, conference talks, remained faithful through his mission, everything would be okay – in fact, this could even go away. Trevor’s mission president even suggested that when he came home from his mission that he should marry a woman right away, and not delay. After meeting with a BYU bishop, Trevor himself had to point the bishop to the church’s mormonandgay.org website of the time and implore him to stop telling other gay kids errant information – that reading a conference talk would not offer a magic cure for changing one’s orientation.  

 Trevor served a mission to Fortaleza, Brazil. But of course, nothing changed about his orientation, and Penny now says they feel stupid for ever thinking that might be a possibility. Trevor came home and resumed his schooling at BYU, where the climate endorsed his notion to keep his sexuality under wraps until that diploma was in hand. The weight of the secrecy bore on his parents, who together realized how much worse must be the burden their son carried, having to keep such a huge part of himself secret. Penny remembers driving Trevor to work one day, after he returned from his mission and him just breaking down. Later, he opened up that on that day in the car, he realized he could never marry a girl – he could never do that to someone. And he no longer wanted to give his parents any false hope. He was gay. 

 While BYU was a difficult place to be for Trevor and he often contemplated transferring to another university that would be better for his mental health, he stayed to complete his studies in graphic design. He loved the program there and felt more comfortable in that environment, with those teachers and people, than any other time at BYU. While in Provo, he received counseling at BYU and at Flourish therapy. (He decided to start therapy after meeting with that BYU bishop.) Penny said she started to see a weight being lifted a bit when he started going. Trevor says that going to therapy is what finally started to change things for him. He graduated in April of 2020, and the lack of the closure of a graduation ceremony during the pandemic felt like yet another defeat. But once Trevor finally received that diploma in the mail (that was unfortunately delayed through a shipping error), he was finally ready to come out publicly. And so were his parents. 

Along the way, through the quiet years, Penny felt guided and buoyed by support resources that would show up in just the right time and just the right way. Penny remembers one late night when she was lamenting the pain her son was experiencing. She got up from bed and went into her (literal) closet where she stumbled on Becky Mackintosh’s video on the lds.org site. She went to Facebook and happened to connect immediately with Becky.  Later, Becky and her husband both became great confidantes and mentors for Penny and Todd. Penny also found a great lifeline through the Facebook group I’ll Walk With You. Not only did she cherish meeting like minds who got her family, but she feels she’s benefited from learning about other identities in the LGBTQ space as others share their experiences. 

Penny now feels it’s vital that more training is offered in the church, as such a huge population of LDS members identify as LGBTQ. She says, “It’s a crapshoot of what kids will hear. And you’re playing with their mental health. I think all bishops, youth leaders, and seminary teachers should undergo necessary training so they’ll stop saying things that might give our kids a reason to not want to be here anymore.” In her own corner of the world in Liberty Lake, WA, Penny works to be a visual ally by hanging a Pride flag at her house so others know she offers an open heart and listening ear. Something her family needed. Todd also hangs a rainbow-themed “All are welcome here” sign in his high school AP history and government classroom to let his students know he is a safe space. They both encourage other LGBTQ parents to just love their kids, and draw boundaries if and when necessary with others to maintain a healthy support system for their kids. 

Trevor is no longer affiliated with the church, which Penny says, “I’m 1000% okay with because I know it’s not a safe place for him. He’s now able to be comfortable with who he is. When you hear your kid say they grew up feeling like they’d rather have a terminal disease than be gay, you know there’s something wrong there. I hate that we subjected him (unknowingly) to that.” 

Trevor is now living his best life as a graphic designer in Seattle, working from home, hanging out with friends, going to museums, and dating.  Penny is eager for him to find the love of his life, just as she hopes for all her kids, (and maybe, if not more for Trevor). She hopes that one day, he “has a family, happiness, success in his job, feels loved and cherished, makes a difference, and most of all she hopes for him to feel healed – not from being gay but from the hurt and pain caused by those who don’t accept that. I don’t want him to carry this stuff with him forever. I’d much rather my son be here (on earth) and in a happy relationship and feel love than alone in the church.” 

Of the new perspective Penny has gained since her oldest son came out, she says one pivotal realization has been that, “I truly in my soul don’t think a loving Heavenly Father would create a gay kid then expect them to fight it and live alone. With everything I am, as a parent myself, I just don’t believe that.”  

Penny and Trevor share a special mother-son bond, loving their time spent together watching reality shows like Project Runway, shopping, and on occasion, learning Tiktok dances. Penny describes Trevor as an amazing and caring man, a fun guy to be around, a great friend who gives good advice, and a loving and supportive big brother and son. She loves how Trevor stands up for himself and for what’s right. 

Church can now be a hard place for the Rowells, especially after recent painful talks and policies stemming out of Utah. They try to practice patience for those who have not yet experienced what their family has in this realm, and hope better resources and education from church headquarters are offered soon. In the meantime, Penny says her family relishes watching “The Chosen” series and often finds that to be the Sunday School lesson they crave. She says, “I can’t picture the Christ of The Chosen turning away a whole body of people.” 

The love Penny bears for all her children runs deep, and of the tears she’s shed while reflecting on the pain Trevor’s experienced, Penny wants all in her circle to know, “This is an emotional topic for me, I would never want someone to mistake my tears for sadness because my son is gay. I’m not sad because I have a gay kid; I’m sad (and cry) because of how they’re sometimes treated. I’m really grateful I have a gay son; I know it’s a blessing. We’ve grown in ways we never would have, if not for him. And we feel so very blessed.”

THE MACDONALD FAMILY

“We had wonderings, when he was young. But you know, we’re LDS. We didn’t quite know how to fit that in,” says Liz Macdonald, of her 27-year-old son, Matt, who is gay. “In my mind, I figured he’d probably be able to marry a woman and make it work.” While Liz and Eric Macdonald are fairly progressive in their religious and political beliefs, when they were raising young kids, Liz said they operated more off an “it’s probably not my child” mentality in terms of LGBTQ issues, and put them on the shelf.

Now, Liz is so grateful it’s her child, as her journey as Matt’s mom has infused her life with a tremendous amount of additional love, education, and perspective. “My heart has been blown wide open. We talk about a broken heart. I had no idea what that really meant. But because of these experiences and the people we’ve met, my heart has expanded to sizes and places I didn’t know existed. And it’s only because my heart was broken open.”

The Macdonalds call Mesa, AZ home, along with their high school senior son, Zach – 18. Their adult children are spread across the country with oldest, Katie - 30, in NY with her husband Rick; Matt – 27, in dental school in Seattle; Andrew – 24, in law school in Tucson; and Rachel –22, finishing her degree at BYU.

When Matt was 16, Liz asked him if he was gay, and he vehemently denied it. She told him, “If you are, just know we love you, no matter what.” Matt went on to have a girlfriend and go to BYU before serving a mission to Mexico City. As her first missionary child out, Liz was “dying to get him home.” But she could tell he wasn’t that excited to come back, and she took it personally. Now she realizes he was likely delaying the inevitable. Something she didn’t always envision at the time as he was always the “perfect LDS child.” She remembers, “We’d walk by his room at night and he was reading his scriptures or his patriarchal blessing. He was always going to temple… In retrospect, we realize he was bloodying his knees to change himself. It’s heartbreaking as a parent to realize.”

When Matt finally returned from his mission, the Macdonalds were in the midst of “a hellacious two years of stress.” Liz was busy planning oldest child Katie’s wedding, and their youngest, Zach, was experiencing health problems and had been undergoing a bone marrow transplant. But still, Liz observed “the light was going out of Matt. He was troubled about something.”

When Matt came home for his sister’s wedding, even Liz’s sisters noticed and expressed their concern for him. Now in hindsight, Liz knows Matt was likely thinking, “If I tell mom one more thing, she might break.”

Soon after, Matt texted his dad, Eric: “Hey, I wanna come home. I have some things I want to talk about.” He was finally ready. That was six years ago. Liz says Matt is no longer engaged with the church, a decision that they think is wonderful for the sake of his mental health. “The shame and loathing he felt for 22 ½ years – that has to be dealt with. We are here to walk with him as he does that.” When Matt came out to his parents, he was a student at BYU and they knew that could jeopardize his standing. Liz says, “We had people tell us, ‘Oh if I knew of a gay kid graduating from BYU, paid by my tithing dollars, I’d have him kicked out’.” And they knew people who had been kicked out. So they encouraged their son to stay quiet.

He did. And finally, the Saturday following Matt’s Friday graduation was Liz’s coming out. She spoke at an ALL (Arizona LDS-LGBTQ) conference. It was liberating. “While those two years of staying quiet were excruciating for me, it was just a tiny taste of what he was going through. The inauthenticity I felt every time someone asked, ‘Oh is Matthew dating anyone?’ Imagine how he felt.” Liz says most of their friends and family have been great since he’s come out, though some just don’t want to talk about it. And sometimes she’s surprised by who falls in each category. Of those who are unsupportive, she reasons, “That’s fine, everyone gets to walk the path they want to. But it’s painful.”

While Matthew is now thriving in Seattle where he’s making friends as his authentic self, his parents have increased their activism back in Mesa. Operating off the motto, “All are alike unto God,” they’ve helped organize ALL gatherings and parent nights at which the likes of Richard Ostler, Tom Christofferson, and the Givens have come to speak in their home. The evenings consist of a dinner, a speaker, then families share their stories and connect. The Macdonalds also assisted with Mesa’s non-discrimination ordinance which just passed and now allows equal opportunities for employment, housing, and accommodations to all. They were pleased to see many friends, community leaders, and the church itself get behind the ordinance for equality, though Liz said it was quite stressful and disappointing to also see so much vitriol.

Liz has held just about every church calling one can, and is now the gospel doctrine teacher in her ward. As someone who also holds a nuanced perspective, she appreciates the opportunity to balance how to teach Noah and Sodom and Gomorrah without sending people on their own faith crisis, while focusing on how to exemplify Christlike love to all of God’s children. Liz has observed how it can be really easy to marginalize people you don’t know and see. “But once those people are in your face and you see the pain, your heart can never be the same,” she says. Liz embraces Brene Brown’s philosophy, “People are hard to hate up close.”

Up close, Liz is active in the LGBTQ-resource space. She serves as a moderator on the parent support site, I’ll Walk With You, and regularly goes to lunch with moms whose kids have just come out and who are seeking a safe space to process. Liz feels, “This is where we should be ministering as a church, instead of stopping gender speech therapy.” Liz really hopes church leaders will heed Elder Uchtdorf’s wise words, when considering healthy prospects for people in the church like her son: “How often has the Holy Spirit tried to tell us something we needed to know, but couldn’t get past the massive iron gate of what we thought we already knew?”

Most of the Macdonald kids still attend church, but Liz isn’t sure what the future holds. “They’re all thinkers. I just trust that wherever they end up is exactly where they’re supposed to be.” Liz’s husband Eric has told their bishop he’ll serve in any calling a gay married couple could also hold. In the meantime, he has stepped up as the ward’s “self-appointed candy man.” Eric’s convinced candy is the best medicine, and the bishop knows he can call up Eric at any time to take candy bars to anyone who may need it.

Together, Liz and Eric have loved their time on the frontlines of LGBTQ advocacy as they regularly witness hearts soften and minds change, including those of their own family members and friends. A father of four daughters recently asked Eric, “Can’t he just marry a woman and make it work?” in reference to their son, Matt. Eric replied, “Which of your beautiful daughters would you like to marry him?” Then watched his friend’s wheels turn, and he said, “Oh, no I get that. I get it now.”

THE DEAN FAMILY

Annika Dean’s life hasn’t exactly followed the idyllic path she remembers seeing displayed on a felt board in Primary at a young age. She was the only child in her row raised by divorced parents, and she would later go through a divorce herself. Both of her children identify as LGBTQ. And Annika and her oldest son have each survived a separate mass shooting. Annika Dean’s life redefines the concept of “All these things shall give thee experience.” And it is with an admirable amount of strength and resilience that she excavates through the rubble to share the rainbows of her past decade with us. 

Annika grew up in Utah County, the middle of five children. She remembers hearing the kids around her at church sing “Families Can Be Together Forever,” while knowing her family was breaking apart. Her youngest brother was just an infant at the time. Both of her parents moved on and remarried within two years, which eventually brought a total of nine siblings into her world. She was mostly raised by her mother and stepfather in Orem, and when she reflects on her childhood, the word chaos comes to mind. While she loved her family, she dreamed of having “the ideal” someday. 

LGBTQ issues weren’t even on Annika’s radar as a youth, except for being slightly frustrated on occasion that so many popular musicians were gay. Annika remembers a speaker at a morningside giving a whole talk about how evil Mick Jagger was, after which she lividly protested to all around her. “Maybe because I adore the Stones,” she laughs. “But I’ve always considered it one of my most important duties as a mother to teach my children the ABCs of rock-n-roll.”

Seeing the movie Philadelphia while in college marked a defining point for Annika. She loved the way the family supported Tom Hanks’ character and his partnership. She pledged if she ever had a gay child, she’d love them the same way. 

At BYU, Annika studied Art Education while long-distance dating a non-LDS Georgia Tech engineering student who she’d met at a summer job. At the Chili’s in Orem, Annika shared with a friend she’d probably marry her boyfriend, and her friend started bawling, and even enlisted their server in her breakdown. Both the server and Annika’s boss at work (who was like a third father to her) warned her of the severe consequences of marrying outside the temple. Annika contemplated their advice, but really wished those closest to her had respected her ability to make her own choices. 

She later ended up marrying the friend of one of her closest childhood friends in the Mesa, Arizona temple. That marriage lasted 14 years and Annika’s grateful it resulted in two sons who were ages 9 and 11 at the time of Annika’s divorce. She shared 50/50 custody with her ex, and during a solo winter break, Annika went on a vacation. She ended up in the middle of a mass shooting at the Ft. Lauderdale, FL airport on January 6, 2017. As shots were fired, Annika dropped down in prayer, and said a hero literally shielded her from the gunfire that would take five lives and injure many more. It was a miracle she survived. 

The following year, Annika’s son Austin was a freshman at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, FL (and son Brandon attended the middle school next door) when yet another shooter took to the halls and ultimately took the lives of 17 students and staff and injured 17 more. Austin survived the February 14, 2018 massacre, though five of his close friends and his beloved cross country coach did not. “Watching my child suffer from the tragedy was hard. My experience at the airport had already impacted and changed him. He once was carefree, but he grew up overnight.” 

After these incidents, Annika struggled with survivor’s guilt. The life of Alaina Petty, the beautiful daughter of one of her close LDS friends, was taken in the school shooting, but it was ultimately Alaina’s parents who helped Annika heal. When Annika first hugged Alaina’s mom as they mourned together, the first words out of her friend’s mouth were “I’m glad Austin survived.” Annika still wears a blue band to honor Alaina’s memory; on it is printed her name and “Forever in our hearts.” 

After this second tragic incident, Annika joined a survivors’ support group called The Rebels Project. She attended one of their gatherings in Colorado where she met fellow Florida survivors from the Pulse nightclub shooting. They bonded through sharing their experiences. “They were my first transgender friends,” she says. A middle school art teacher, Annika has always taken great effort to make her classroom an inclusive, loving place, and ultimately, her sons knew she would be a safe person for them as they each came out over subsequent years.

Her oldest, Austin, had participated in Scouts and his ward youth group, and had saved $4,000 toward a mission. But last year, he came out to his mom as bisexual and has decided not to participate anymore. Annika says Austin really struggled at first to come out to her, so nervous she might not love him – which was definitely not the case. He is now thriving as a student at Florida State University. Austin says he wishes the LDS church made more space for people who don’t fit the “straight mold” as it’s difficult to sit and listen to ideals that don’t pertain to you. 

His younger brother, Brandon, now a 16-year-old junior at MSD, had wanted to stop attending church years ago. Not a fan of organized religion in general, his discomfort grew in church settings as he started to question his own sexuality. Brandon says he feels more comfortable now “just chilling with myself.” Brandon identifies as pansexual, and looks forward to a future serving in the Marine Corps and then studying psychology. He hopes to someday be a therapist and helicopter pilot.

Annika says she remembers shielding her boys from LGBTQ characters in entertainment when they were younger, but she later happily took them multiple times to see Adam Lambert front Queen in concert, as well as the Bohemian Rhapsody film about Freddie Mercury’s life. “I was slowly turning to be more empathetic to the LGBTQ community before I knew my sons were a part of it. We watch It’s a Wonderful Life every Christmas. This year we added an extra movie about a gay man falling in love,” she says.

While her sons no longer attend church, Annika still tunes in via Zoom weekly and happily feeds the sister missionaries whenever she can, out of gratitude for the many who fed her “the food of the gods” in Hong Kong when she was a missionary there 25 years ago. Annika says that right now, it’s too painful to imagine walking into a church building for her, but she’s grateful for those who do show her and her family support, like her dear friend who ministers to her, as well as her minister’s husband, who serves as a loving stake president.

Recently while at work, Annika told a gay colleague about her sons. “That’s great!” he replied, and his elated reaction shocked her. “I’m so used to the opposite reaction, like mourners at a funeral.” She’s realizing that words mean a lot. Words matter. While Annika has always felt comforted by the words of Elder Jeffrey R. Holland, who has often delivered much needed messages about mental health and a quote that once echoed her heart as he stated, ”May we hope for schools where students are taught – not terrified they will be shot,” recent talks have been quite painful for Annika. Especially one by the same apostle that referenced taking up figurative musket fire against people like her sons. “Those words hurt,” she says. “It’s kind of hard – impossible, really – to be all in when we’re not loving our children the way I believe God wants us to.”

As the tragiversary of the Parkland shooting approaches next week, and she reflects on all the various aspects of her life that did not go quite as planned, Annika envisions a new hopeful future for her sons. While life can still be quite difficult at times, Annika says she is grateful now more than ever for support groups. “The formulaic idea that if you do this, you get this – it just doesn’t happen for everybody. Over half the church is single. But sometimes church can feel like an MLM. For some at the top -- temple recommend holders, married – being in church is easy. But if you’re at the bottom – divorced, widowed, LGBTQ, etc., it’s kind of painful. People don’t leave the church because they don’t believe, but often because they don’t belong.” 

Annika continues, “I’m just grateful for the support I got from people who understand what it’s like to be in a mass shooting, and what it’s like to raise LGBTQ kids in a devout religious environment. I’m grateful for the wisdom and support of people who really know and have been there.” 

Annika recently attended an art exhibit during which unexpected gunfire went off, as part of the production design. Hearing the shot triggered her, and after, she wrote a note to the museum. Within a day, they had posted signage to provide a heads up to those who might likewise be startled. Annika felt so grateful they didn’t minimize or ignore her feelings. She appreciated feeling heard. And she hopes that by sharing her story, others will feel the same.

THE SARAH DAVIS FAMILY

As a child, every morning, Ehren Clark got put on a special bus and shuttled off to the Gifted

and Talented school. He was handsome. A charmer. Artistic and fashion forward. He’d grow to

be 6’4, a great swimmer and excellent student, and the manager of a bakery while still in high

school. He graduated from college, got his masters, and began a successful career. He had all

of the brains, talent, and charisma to do whatever he wanted in life, but according to his big

sister, Sarah, “The world crushed it out of him. It’s kinda not fair.”

Sarah Clark Davis is the oldest of six siblings who grew up in Houston, TX. She always shared

a special closeness with second-in-line, Ehren, even when things got complicated toward the

end of his life. Their dad came from LDS pioneer roots; their mother, Joanne, was a convert

who jumped in headfirst and embraced everything about her newfound faith. Joanne’s kids’

aptitude for art and fashion trickled down from her side, which included several LGBTQ

members: a brilliantly creative artist and gay uncle who died of AIDS when Sarah was 14, a

lesbian aunt, and a trans cousin. Growing up, Sarah says Ehren, “was always the good kid,

mom’s favorite. He made us all look bad. If we ran out to play, he’d stay back to clean the

kitchen. It was obnoxious -- he always did the right thing in church, school, home. Until he

didn’t.”

Around age 15, things fell apart. Ehren started failing school and failing to come home. He loved

music and dancing and would go out to clubs all night with an older crowd, returning home in

Depeche Mode-esque eyeliner. Sarah says, “There was never a moment he sat me down and

said, ‘Sarah, I’m gay.’ I would have been like ‘Yeah, I know.’ He was just open with himself in a

way that everyone knew this guy was gay. And he wasn’t afraid to be his flamboyant self.”

Growing up in Texas, Sarah remembers defending Ehren against name-callers who made fun of

the way he ran. He gravitated toward safer pursuits and really found his people in the theatre

community. There was never really a conversation about him going on a mission – by that age,

Ehren was out on his own path. He remained close to his family, especially his mom, but longed

for a family himself. Sarah noticed a grief she assumes was impacted by his inability to

reconcile his life with church teachings.

All of Ehren’s siblings went to BYU, while he went to the U. Shortly after, he backpacked

through Europe, where his troubles escalated and he had a substance abuse-related

breakdown. “The drugs were not helpful to the issues he already had going on in his brain,”

says Sarah. He was admitted into a hospital, where he was diagnosed with drug-induced

schizophrenia and bipolar, what's often referred to as schizoaffective disorder. 

Ehren returned to Utah, where he found the church’s addiction recovery program useful in

helping get his substance abuse under control. After earning a masters in art history from

University College London, Ehren became very active in Salt Lake’s arts community – teaching

at Westminster College, and befriending artists and gallery owners alike while working as an art

critic for City Weekly. Sarah says, “He loved that life and community so much.”

All the while, Ehren’s family focused on loving and supporting him with zero unrealistic

expectations. They adopted the “we don’t know how this will work out in the church, but it will”

approach. Even after he stepped away at age 18, Sarah was always comforted by the many

people on various ward rosters who continued to reach out to Ehren throughout his life and

show him love. “I realize it’s a lottery and not everyone has that in the church, but I want to do

what I can to provide that where I attend – to leave the doors as wide open as possible so

people feel wanted.”

To his family’s shock, after nearly two decades of being out of the church, around age 36, Ehren

was ushered back in by a faith community Sarah describes as his “angels.” She says he lived in

this “funky little branch in Salt Lake that was filled with diversity, artists, and he found his people.

The bishop just loved him, and Ehren went back and became the assistant executive secretary.

Then he called us up one day to invite us to his endowment exactly thirty years from the date of

his baptism.” Sarah still marvels that her brother chose to quit drinking, smoking and even

coffee to go to the temple especially since all of that was part of his social circle. But she says

his complicated mind longed for a peace he somehow found in the temple -- where he worked

weekly up until he died.

Toward the end of his life, Ehren also worked at the enterprise Sarah founded, Fashionphile,

where he’d pen product descriptions for resale luxury goods. Loving fashion the way he did,

Ehren had a flare for the words that described it, though his mental health sometimes impeded

his productivity. Of his output, Sarah laughs, “We just figured, it is what it is. At the end of the

day, we’re going to get something, even if it may need a little editing!”

Sarah had a startling dream one night in which both she and Ehren had died, and he joined her

at the pearly gates in the form of the handsome, smart, witty, cool guy she’d known when he

was younger and before his mental break. He said, “What happened? Right when I needed you

most, you backed away.” Sarah woke up in a sweat and thought if Ehren had cancer, she would

have moved him in with her family. From that moment, she made a concerted effort to strip any

boundaries that might prevent her from being there for him, even when he was difficult.

As Ehren lived alone, Sarah and her sister initiated daily FaceTime calls with him. His mood

swings were extreme. In the same call, he might put them on a pedestal, then start swearing

and call them she-devils. Sarah mastered the art of, “Ehren, I love you. I can tell this isn’t a good

time. Let’s talk later.” And they would. To this day, Sarah is still triggered by the sound of a

FaceTime call, remembering the beautiful face and complex mind of the brother she loved.

2017 was not a good year for Ehren or the Clarks, especially on the tail of their father’s

diagnosis with brain cancer and onset of their mother’s dementia. In an attempt to convince

them he was okay, Ehren had pulled away a bit from the family, while also exhibiting extreme

mood swings and weight fluctuation – his meds out of balance. But Sarah and siblings thought if

they could just get him through their annual 4th of July gathering at their family cabin, they could

work together to get him admitted somewhere and get his meds regulated.

Right before the gathering, Sarah called, but Ehren didn’t answer. Their brother, Jesse, went

over to check on him and Sarah says as he walked up the stairs, he says he felt a heaviness.

He just knew. They all did. At 42 years old, Ehren was gone. Jessie found him in bed in his pj’s

and his slippers at the bedside. His room was tidy and his cat was curled up next to him. Ehren

had overdosed on the wrong medicine cocktail – his dosage off. It still plagues Sarah how easy

it is for some to overdose on prescription medicine.

Reflecting on the tragic loss of her brother, Sarah says, “It’s all interconnected – part of his

mental illness and personal tragedy was his never being able to accept that constant tension in

his brain – his sexuality against his testimony. He loved being ‘a Mormon.’ What does that mean

for your brain if you love that, and you’re gay?” Sarah acknowledges there are many things

about Ehren’s life she doesn’t know. She guarantees there was likely a plethora of hard stories

involving bullying and nastiness that she wasn’t privy to. She reckons, “I’m sure it was there. I’m

sure there were people who weren’t nice. But I also know he was blessed with a lot of angels

who loved him.”

Meanwhile, Sarah is grateful for her lesbian aunt who lives a great life in Poway as a diehard

Dodgers fan and successful, contributing member of society. But most importantly, she’s always

been a friend and support to Sarah. She has modeled a loving openness that has inspired the

Davis family. She freely shares her own mission stories and has always been encouraging to

Sarah and her kids when they've embarked on their missions. And in turn Sarah and her family

have done their best to follow her example, showing love and support to their trans cousin after

having top surgery. “Post-surgery, my aunt thought it was cool their Mormon family was doing

what they do best, and sending over dinner.”

Sarah regrets that Ehren’s path was more difficult as he battled a series of heavy things -- his

eating disorder, his schizo-affective diagnosis, his drug addiction. “Maybe if just one of those

things wasn’t there, he could have just been himself and done anything.”

Every December, Sarah’s family now decorates a Christmas tree in rainbow décor in her

brother’s honor. “He loved attention - for his amazing outfits, for who he is. And he’s in heaven

right now loving that we’re talking about him.”

THE FREW FAMILY / HUSBAND-IN-LAW

Few can claim the privilege of having a husband-in-law. The very label makes you think: how does that work? But for Matt and Jessica Frew, and Jessica’s ex-husband, Steve Stoddard, it’s not only their relationship, but their brand. The trio have made the best of a complex situation since Steve came out to Jessica as gay shortly after they married 17 years ago. They later divorced and now happily co-parent their daughter Penny, along with Jessica’s new husband, Matt. Somehow, they have made it work -- so much so that they now offer their advice, inside jokes, and positive energy to others in similar situations via their @husband_in_love podcast.

But this modern family’s story first started with a love story back when Jessica and Steve met in college. Steve had shown up to a concert with ten other girls, but wound up separating from them to sit by Jessica. The two hit it off instantly, went out the next day, and were inseparable right up to their marriage just ten months later. Steve was a returned missionary, the two married in the temple, and together, “strived to keep the commandments and do all those things we were raised to believe and that were close to our heart,” says Jess. They had an intense closeness, sharing everything with each other. Shortly before their marriage, Steve opened up to Jess about how he had struggled with pornography since age 10. While a difficult topic, Jess appreciated how this conversation set the tone for their relationship – that they could be honest about everything and still love each other. Six months later, porn started popping up on their home computer; but it was all gay porn. This was the first time Jess realized Steve might be gay. When he got home from work that day, Jess asked a tough question. Still in extreme denial at the time, Steve said, “No, I’m not gay. I just always thought it was more appropriate to look at men than women, so I don’t disrespect women.”

Steve was in therapy at the time for various reasons, and it was his counselor who helped him process that the real issue he was facing is that he was actually gay. Steve finally acknowledged it, and together with Jess and the help of some church-based support resources and therapy, they decided to work to stay married. They were still close, happy, and working toward their mutual goal to become parents. Jess and Steve stayed together another five years after Steve came out, in which time their daughter, Penny, was born. They maintained the same honesty they always had, though Jess recalls, “It wasn’t always easy. He had lots to work through. The fact Steve had shared this most vulnerable part of himself (and the shame and guilt he felt around his true identity against what he’d been taught) helped us connect on so many levels. He was conflicted about himself, what he wanted, and it was hard for him to view himself as a good person. I helped him to reframe how he thought about this – that he was still the wonderful person I loved. This didn’t define him, or take away from his worth. Instead, it increased who he was – it added value of who God created him to be. But it wasn’t easy.”

Shortly before their daughter turned two, Jess went away for the weekend. When she came home, she knew in her gut Steve had had an affair. At first, she felt compelled to search his phone for proof but while scrolling, she froze and thought: “What am I doing? If something has happened, he’ll tell me.” Instead, she went to the temple, and later that night in bed told him, “Steve, I can tell something’s not right. I apologize that I started to go through your phone. But I want to trust that you’ll tell me when you’re ready.” Steve flipped on the light and confessed. He’d had an affair with a man he was still in communication with – a man who had encouraged Steve to stay with his wife once he found out he was married, because having a wife and a child was something this man had always wanted for himself. Jessica and Steve took some time to sort through their new reality. After leaving to spend two weeks away at a friend’s house to think, Jess returned to Oklahoma, where she and Steve had recently moved. She told Steve she had come to terms with getting divorced. She packed her things and returned with Penny to Boise, ID, where they still owned a home. But before leaving, Jess and Steve went to dinner with the man with whom he’d had an affair. Jess says, “I wanted to get to know him, the man who would support him. I needed that. Our lives had both just drastically changed, and we needed time and space to heal. And support.” Jessica ended up really liking the guy, and it gave her comfort to know they could make the space to welcome new relationships as they navigated co-parenting Penny with the back-and-forth between Idaho and Oklahoma.

Eventually, Steve also returned to Idaho to be closer to family, including Jessica’s parents, who still treated him like their own. He took up mountain biking with a group of friends, including a guy named Matt Frew -- a guy who he quickly suspected his ex-wife might like to meet. Sure enough, one week later, Jess said, “I’m going to marry Matt Frew.” This declaration may have included an aggressive nine-month pursuit on Jess’s part in which Matt was dating a different Jessica. But ultimately, Jess won Matt’s heart. Two months after their first date, they were married. Matt brought two kids from a prior relationship into the blend, which now also Includes frequent visits and pool parties, birthday parties, and holidays with Steve and his new (adored by all) partner, who live about a mile away. If that wasn’t quite close enough, Steve and Matt also see each other on the daily as Steve is a manager at the shipping company Matt owns. On occasion, they even take their daughters on double dates.

As their family dynamic has shifted and grown, the closeness Steve and Jess always enjoyed remains, but now feels more like a “sibling-like” bond, says Jess. “We still have struggles, but there is a way for us to love and support each other. It looks so different than 17 years ago when we got married. But this has all opened my heart and eyes to see the expanse of love. How far it can go, how inclusive it is. There’s so much we don’t understand about love, but there’s enough to go around.”

As they have worked hard together to strengthen their own family structure, Jess, Steve, and Matt have found immense reward in now helping others who similarly find themselves in an alternate family dynamic. They teach strategies for rethinking and reworking the lives of those involved when a partner comes out, through their coaching program @theboldlogic. Jess, who still attends the LDS church with Matt and kids, says, “I had never seen a family like ours before. And Steve always says if he had been able to listen to a podcast with story like ours, it would have given him more hope.” While Steve shares his perspectives as a gay man formerly in a mixed orientation marriage, Jess specializes in helping the spouse who is left behind – and often overlooked -- in the wake of the celebration and focus on the freshly out LGBTQ partner. She believes, “If we can do the work on ourselves, then we can help the gay spouse/ex to be who they are -- and both support each other. Whether you stay together or not, there’s a mourning that you’ve lost the relationship you thought you’d have. I help women process those emotions so you can have best relationship you can. So we can all support our LGBTQ fellow brother and sisters.”

Penny has known since age 3 that her dad is gay, and has always loved him for who he is – which Jess says helps Penny in turn love herself. Jess says, “I teach her that God created people how they are for a reason. There is nothing wrong with identifying as an LGBTQ person. It’s a blessing for my daughter to be able to understand to love others. That’s what our Heavenly Parents sent us down here to do.”

Through her unique experience, Jess has come to appreciate that, “All families are valid. There’s no right or wrong way to be a family. They come in all shapes and sizes. The real importance is that we love each other. It just comes down to that -- love and acceptance. I firmly believe that’s all our Heavenly Parents want for us – to know that no matter what, our family loves us.”

THE MCEWEN FAMILY

There are many things Liz McEwen knows about herself: that she is madly in love with her

husband, Jason. She adores her kids, Scarlett – 5, and Leo – 3. And that she has found

tremendous relief since last summer when she came out publicly as bisexual. One added

nugget that has helped Liz adapt since she first realized this unique part of herself decades ago:

Liz knows she was created by Heavenly Parents who fully understand and love her for who she

is.

That doesn’t mean it’s always been easy.

Liz grew up in Idaho Falls, ID, which she describes as a “mini Provo: very conservative and very

LDS.” She recalls knowing as young as eight years old that while other friends entered puberty

and developed crushes on a boy or girl, she was attracted to both boys and girls. In the 90s, she

felt the reality of a less enlightened generation and social norms and remembers hearing

countless anti-LGTBQ slurs, jokes, and teachings – even in her own home. “It was normal to

hear bad things said about queer people.”

Like most kids, Liz explored different romantic experiences as a tween and teen – with boys and

girls alike, and she remembers feeling so scared. “I would lie down at night and look up at the

lace canopy over my bed and imagine it being on fire because I thought I was going to hell. Gay

people were bad, according to everyone I knew. As a result of these beliefs, I had many mental

health issues due to the stress. And I had no one to talk to.”

She made an appointment to confide in her bishop at one point. She remembers him as a kind

and understanding man, but he let her know her attractions and relationships with girls were

wrong. So Liz went back into the closet and carried her thoughts silently in shame for many

years.

Liz chose to pursue relationships with men and fell in love with Jason, her husband of ten years.

On the 4th of July, the two met at a party hosted by one of Liz’s roommates. Literal and

figurative fireworks were present that night, and Liz and Jason fell for each other. Liz describes

their marriage as a happy one, and she was honest with Jason from the beginning of their union

about her bisexuality. It was a relief that she could be completely open about the reality and

trauma she had been carrying alone. She appreciates how kind and understanding Jason was

from the start: “more so than I was,” says Liz, who began working with a licensed professional

counselor who helped her work through some of the internalized homophobia she had accrued

since childhood. “The more I learned, the more I realized how badly this was eating me up

inside – the secrecy and guilt and shame of it all.”

The progress Liz has found through counseling inspired her to become one herself, and she is

now pursuing her master’s degree in clinical mental health. As she has continued to study

LGBTQ issues, Liz has come to more fully understand the trauma many face, especially in a

religious context. She looks forward to soon helping others who’ve experienced a similar path

find peace with who they are. In the meantime, Liz encourages anyone struggling with their

mental health for similar reasons “to pray to Heavenly Father and ask what He thinks about

you. And get some professional help, too – especially if you have overwhelming thoughts of

suicide. I promise there is love and support out there.”

Looking at Liz’s family photo, some may wonder, wouldn’t it be easier to keep this part of you

away from the public eye? But many in the know, including Liz, have found tremendous relief

and healing from authenticity, both at home and beyond. After opening up about this part of

her in her marriage, Liz says, “For Jason and I, I’m not sure it changed anything for us. I’m

attracted to him and vice versa. We both know the truth of who the other is, and it is freeing. If

I struggle or hear hurtful comments at church, now I can talk more freely about it. Keeping that

secret to yourself, is REALLY difficult. It’s such a big part of who you are – I like being able to

share all of me with my husband, and he feels the same.”

And since she came out publicly on Facebook last summer, Liz says many women – including

some married to men – have in turn confided in her that they face the same reality of being bi.

“It feels like a big heavy burden they’re keeping, too, and just being able to talk about it helps.”

But it hasn’t been all sunshine and rainbows. Liz has also faced disappointment and rejection

from many in her inner circle. Even her parents have made it clear that they do not understand

or support Liz’s reality and infer she’s been brainwashed by her educational pursuits. And

things did not get easier for Liz when after coming out last July, she (like many in this space) felt

betrayed by Elder Holland’s August address to BYU faculty. Liz says, “I felt like his talk paid lip

service to how much they love people in the LGBTQ community, and then said, ‘But don’t love

them too much. Don’t advocate for anybody.’ So I don’t know where I stand with the church

right now. Part of me loves a lot of the teachings – about eternal families and serving your

community. But I have a hard time reconciling the good things with hurtful things.”

Liz says her future hopes for the church’s treatment of queer members are not high as “there is

a lot of entrenched thinking about how things should be and what’s true and what isn’t.” She

wonders if some people hold so tightly to some of their “traditional family” ideals because

having to grapple with the cognitive dissonance of what LGBTQ people go through is too

difficult. So she realigns her focus: “What I’m doing, for me, is just working on my relationship

with God and being there for others in this community. Because that’s the only real control

anyone who’s a member and has these nuanced beliefs can do. If me staying and being there

for one queer person makes a difference, that’ll be good enough.”

Luckily, in her hometown of Parker, CO, Liz has been met with love by local leadership since she

came out. Her bishop immediately reached out, wanting to know what he could do for queer

people in general, and what helpful resources are already available -- a gesture that meant a lot

to Liz. “I’ve decided the church is true in my ward,” Liz laughs. “And Jason’s made it very clear

that even if they excommunicate me, he’s still with me. But I’m not sure what my future will

look like in the church. All I know is God loves me. He loves all queer people. I hope someday

the church can see that as well.”

THE HANCEY FAMILY

As TV chef and food blogger @charlotte.shares, Charlotte Hancey is known and loved for sharing her “bold Texas taste” culinary delights with the world. She’s now also thrilled to publicly share her love and support for her 19-year-old son, Ethan, who recently joined her in an Instagram post in which she came out as the mother of a gay son. As Ethan is Charlotte’s firstborn, fellow in-house foodie, and favorite mouth to feed, it felt natural that they would also share this side-by-side.

But first, let’s rewind to December 10, 2020 -- an otherwise normal day in the Hancey’s North Ogden, UT home. Charlotte had two on-air cooking segments for Good Things Utah the following day, so the family knew that was their cue to stay out of the kitchen wherein frazzled, she prepped. Only, Ethan entered and said, “Mom, I need to talk to you and dad.” “Can it wait?” she replied. But there was something about his “I guess” coupled with the look in his eyes that jolted Charlotte’s heart. It was time to put on a different apron. She left the room with him to have a conversation – one she felt she had quietly (and gratefully) been prepared for for years.

Behind the closed door of his parents’ bedroom, Ethan shared his journey of discovering his truth over the years. Charlotte and her husband Ben embraced their son and cried with him. “No other option or feeling came to us. Just lots of love.” Charlotte says there had been many moments since Ethan was 12 that made them wonder if their son might be gay. Together, the couple would talk and conclude, “No, no…” but they still privately wondered, so it wasn’t a huge shock. 

The family love fest continued as over the Christmas holidays, Ethan rallied his nerves to tell his two youngest sisters, Clara – 16, and Meredith – 14 -- who mean the world to him. They, too, embraced him, cried with him, and said it would all be okay. Ethan’s relief was immediate and all-encompassing as he now realized he had the full support of his family and his closest friends, who he’d already told. Charlotte recalls the depth of his exhale: “At that moment, all his people loved him, and knowing this, perhaps loved him even more. The love in that room was tangible – one of the most beautiful moments we’ve experienced as a family.”

This moment came at the culmination of 2020, a hard year for the world, and in particular the Hanceys as it had also included a seven-month overseas deployment for Ben, who serves in the Air Force. And now at year’s end, Charlotte found herself sorting through a new transition. “While we were fully on board, it still felt like a death in a way. I had to let go of this dream, and all these ideas I had for his future – marrying a woman in a temple marriage, having biological kids with a spouse. I think it’s okay to feel sadness in incidents like this – like I’d feel sad when a child moves out, goes on a mission, or gets married – just sad at the change or transition it is. As a parent, you just don’t want your kid’s life to be hard.” Charlotte recalls her own traumatic upbringing, having experienced a difficult childhood herself. “I had always fought so hard for my kids to not have to go through that. Even though I know they’ll all have hard times.”

Charlotte describes Ethan as the sweetest, kindest, most empathetic, warm, and wonderful person. The thought of the church and world being against him just felt like too much at times. She feels grateful to have had Ben on board with her, internally processing all the same emotions and fears. Typically known for being an outspoken, open book who wears her heart on her sleeve, during those early months, Charlotte found herself closing up, unsure how to talk to anyone. And she certainly didn’t feel ready to come out of the gates with this new information to her social media audience. She was told by a wise friend, “You will know when it’s time.” She’s grateful several trusted family members and friends were there for her, and connected her to a network of other LGBTQ moms, including those at Lift and Love. “It was a God thing the way the connections happened.” She also took comfort in finding and devouring Charlie Bird’s book, A Walk in My Shoes -- which she now widely recommends.

Since his coming out, there’s “a new light in Ethan’s eyes. He’s thriving.” Highly artistic and musical by nature, Ethan’s now applying his talents to the graphic design program at UVU in Provo, UT. “He’s always been the sweetest kid, and now he’s sharing more of his true personality. He just got his ears pierced, and I love it. He’s coming out of his shell and it’s beautiful to see.” Charlotte continues, “One thing I’ve reiterated over and over is every person is born with worth. You don’t have to earn it. We need to live our lives so we can see it for ourselves. To live worthy of happiness and love, and recognizing that worth in others, is life changing. This experience has increased my capacity to love everybody.”

Regarding Ethan’s future, Charlotte wants him to feel happy and worthy of love: “not just from a romantic point of view, but from everybody – family, friends, those he meets. I want him to feel he has a place in this world and can contribute to it. Where he can love people and feel loved back.” 

Ethan no longer feels there’s a healthy place for him at church and does not attend, but Charlotte says he supports them still going. She personally feels more reasons to stay and be a voice for him than leave. “I’m there to speak up. I want families like ours to be able to feel completely comfortable going to church, and not have to brace ourselves for comments that might be said. I feel like the culture and doctrine can get mixed up a lot when it comes to loving and accepting. I feel like we should focus more on what God and Christ did – and what did they do? Love unconditionally.” 

By sharing their story, both online and with those whose paths they cross, Charlotte feels she is closer to fulfilling her life’s purpose. “Over the last year, I’ve realized there are a lot of things in our lives we’re afraid to talk about. For years, I was scared to talk about my childhood, but the more I talk about that or this, it brings human connection. We shouldn’t be afraid to share hard things. Since Ethan came out, people have come out of the woodwork to also share with me that their children are gay. And talking and sharing brings people together. Human stories connect us and help us feel seen, worthy, and loved.”

This kind of connection is a gift Charlotte has cherished since that night in December of 2020 when Ethan first shared this part of his story with her. The next day, she boldly carried her culinary perfections into Good Things Utah along with a new ingredient: she was now the proud mom of a gay son. Charlotte walked right up to a host who had become a good friend. Knowing already she was a loving ally, Charlotte whispered her news about Ethan, and melted into the huge hug of support she received in return. Being able to share it this way just felt right.